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by dylanj
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: respecting sangha
Replies: 10
Views: 206

Re: respecting sangha

me too re: all above
by dylanj
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: vinaya rule against ordaining in two traditions
Replies: 4
Views: 122

vinaya rule against ordaining in two traditions

i know this exists - can someone give me a citation/quote
by dylanj
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Can anyone explain simply and clearly what "timeless" means when applied to DO, and give a practical example? In your own words, please. I'm afraid this "timeless" idea makes no sense to me at all, given the centrality of anicca in the teachings, and given that DO is all about arising and ceasing i...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Why are you practising Buddhism?
Replies: 26
Views: 510

Re: Why are you practising Buddhism?

nibbāna
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

the simultaneity of it is in the actual text, i don't know how it could be more clear "when this is, this is" "when this isn't, this isn't" this does not become false or invalid in the 2nd & 4th lines, it is the same principle applied to arising/ceasing, coming/going, as opposed to existence/nonexis...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

again for emphasis if idappaccayatā/paṭiccasamuppāda is taken as sequential/linear (which all of the views in the poll fall under, sadly) & not simply representative of a timeless principle, then one link must exist independet of the next, even if just for a moment. given the view that "saṅkhārā ari...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

your sequential translation is not in the actual pāli nor is there any distinction between two modes in the actual pāli
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

anyway the problem is that interpreting it sequentially explicitly contradicts line 3 & 4 as it would be equivalent to saying that one link can & does exist while the other does not, or that it can & does not exist while the other does. if you think that saṅkhārā arises after ignorance & not simult...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

anyway the problem is that interpreting it sequentially explicitly contradicts line 3 & 4 as it would be equivalent to saying that one link can & does exist while the other does not, or that it can & does not exist while the other does. if you think that saṅkhārā arises after ignorance & not simult...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

btw a more literal translation would be

This existing, this exists;
this arising, this arises;
this not existing, this does not exist;
this ceasing, this ceases’.
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Dinsdale wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:57 am
dylanj wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:55 am
yes i know the difference. i have the whole quartet memorized in pali & english
So can you explain what you think the difference actually is between these two modes of conditionality?
it's one mode. the 4 lines are collectively referred to as idappaccayatā, "specific conditionality".
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

But there are two modes of conditionality ( 1 and 2 below ). I think you're talking about No. 1 here. No. 2 involves a sequence of events or states. 1. "'When this is, that is. 2. "'From the arising of this comes the arising of that. 1. "'When this isn't, that isn't. 2. "'From the cessation of this...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

But there are two modes of conditionality ( 1 and 2 below ). I think you're talking about No. 1 here. No. 2 involves a sequence of events or states. 1. "'When this is, that is. 2. "'From the arising of this comes the arising of that. 1. "'When this isn't, that isn't. 2. "'From the cessation of this...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:49 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

the dhamma is akāliko/timeless in the most literal sense
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

why would it take time for something to cease when its requisite condition ceases?

if "when this is, this is" & "when this isn't, this isn't" is true of the two links then the moment one is, the other is, & the moment one isn't, the other isn't
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Could you elaborate on "simultaneous"? And how does this work with the conditionality mode of "When this arises, that arises", which involves a sequence over time? It's actually "when this arises, this arises". "imassuppādā idaṁ uppajjati", not "imassuppādā etaṁ uppajjati" there's nothing sequentia...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Shrine Room
Topic: May dates of the Buddha's birth, enlightenment and passing away
Replies: 8
Views: 483

Re: May dates of the Buddha's birth, enlightenment and passing away

Stiphan wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:54 pm
The Buddha was born 566BC, attained Enlightenment 531BC, and passed away in 484BC. Just for your information. (Yes he died at the age of 82. Don't worry about how I know this. It's true.)
:? uhhhh
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Shrine Room
Topic: May dates of the Buddha's birth, enlightenment and passing away
Replies: 8
Views: 483

Re: May dates of the Buddha's birth, enlightenment and passing away

yes but we should observe the date by its lunar phase & not as we would a birthday
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 214
Views: 2751

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

simultaneous, non-linear Could you elaborate on "simultaneous"? And how does this work with the conditionality mode of "When this arises, that arises", which involves a sequence over time? It's actually "when this arises, this arises". "imassuppādā idaṁ uppajjati", not "imassuppādā etaṁ uppajjati" ...
by dylanj
Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Mind lives on after death?
Replies: 40
Views: 1482

Re: Mind lives on after death?

cappuccino wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:18 pm
I think atheists expect death, yet that will never happen
you're in for a painful surprise, friend

you will die