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by aflatun
Fri May 26, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why Alaya Vinnana and Manas is not supported in Theravada?
Replies: 6
Views: 173

Re: Why Alaya Vinnana and Manas is not supported in Theravada?

Dear Sarath As I'm sure you know this is a complicated subject, I would recommend familiarizing yourself with what these things mean, and what they don't mean, a little further before attempting to ascertain their relationship or lack thereof to Theravada What is and isn't Yogacara A key point that ...
by aflatun
Sun May 21, 2017 1:04 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Thai monks smoke?
Replies: 117
Views: 5511

Re: Why do Thai monks smoke?

Well, we eat when we are hungry. Why are we smoking for? I hear you, but we don't just eat when we're hungry, that was my point :) And even if we do, that hardly guarantees that craving and delight are not present. (Also, note that hunger signals are highly malleable and someone who's constantly ov...
by aflatun
Sun May 21, 2017 12:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Thai monks smoke?
Replies: 117
Views: 5511

Re: Why do Thai monks smoke?

sensual indulgence, than is the occasional cigarette. I think smoking is the worst sensual indulgence. That's fine, its your prerogative. But I was speaking medically. For me, sensual indulgence is sensual indulgence, and when its engaged in chronically its probably "chronic sensual indulgence...
by aflatun
Sat May 20, 2017 11:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Thai monks smoke?
Replies: 117
Views: 5511

Re: Why do Thai monks smoke?

I'm far more concerned when I see an overweight monk than when I see one with a lit cigarette. I think both of these are harmful and take the effort to avoid it. Yes, but if we find ourselves in a moral outrage over smoking monks, and not so much over overweight monks (of course moral outrage is no...
by aflatun
Sat May 20, 2017 11:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Thai monks smoke?
Replies: 117
Views: 5511

Re: Why do Thai monks smoke?

No doubt, reflection and mindfulness are of course to be encouraged, but I'm not sure that ensures craving is not present when one is eating I'm far more concerned when I see an overweight monk than when I see one with a lit cigarette. If you're even slightly overweight, that means you're over eatin...
by aflatun
Sat May 20, 2017 10:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why do Thai monks smoke?
Replies: 117
Views: 5511

Re: Why do Thai monks smoke?

SarathW wrote:
The harm you are implicating here is a trifle compared to the harm to other beings that will be caused by not understanding tanha and kāmacchando

Isn't smoking tanha and kamachando?


Isn't eating?
by aflatun
Mon May 15, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Perhaps another way to say this, is that the three marks are the three marks of the products of hatred, greed and delusion, which would seem to commit us to some form of "anti-realism," or simply a dropping of the realism that seems to color the way we discuss aggregates. Extending the th...
by aflatun
Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Where to ordain w views seemingly similar to Ven. Nanavira's
Replies: 9
Views: 467

Re: Where to ordain w views similar to Ven. Nanavira's

R1111 wrote:Thanks, this is great news:) I was starting to think it would be impossible to find a group where i would not have to self censor and whom i could get along with in terms of views. Thanks again :anjali:


Let us know how this works out for you!

Are things going OK where you are now?

metta
by aflatun
Tue May 09, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Where to ordain w views seemingly similar to Ven. Nanavira's
Replies: 9
Views: 467

Re: Where to ordain w views similar to Ven. Nanavira's

I think Venerable Ninoslav Nanamoli was building a monastery recently? Or has already done so. I'm also under the impression that he can be reached by correspondence but I'm not positive how one might go about doing this. Ven. Ariyavaṃsa may also be able to direct you in this regard as he seems to r...
by aflatun
Tue May 09, 2017 1:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Perhaps another way to say this, is that the three marks are the three marks of the products of hatred, greed and delusion, which would seem to commit us to some form of "anti-realism," or simply a dropping of the realism that seems to color the way we discuss aggregates. Extending the thr...
by aflatun
Tue May 09, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

I'm not sure if this will shed any light, but here is a post I made in another thread: When concentration through mindfulness of in-&-out breathing is thus developed, thus pursued, then if he senses a feeling of pleasure, he discerns that it is inconstant, not grasped at, not relished. If he se...
by aflatun
Sat May 06, 2017 4:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

" The 3 marks of existence" doesn't sound right, because Nibbana / cessation of dukkha is a living experience . "The 3 marks of unenlightened existence" doesn't sound right either, because insight into anicca and anatta is a prerequisite for enlightenment, and I don't see how th...
by aflatun
Sat May 06, 2017 3:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Challenging the Sotapanna cannot break the Five Precepts View
Replies: 146
Views: 2400

Re: Challenging the Sotapanna cannot break the Five Precepts View

You're all quite well read, devoted and sincere. Perhaps the texts are simply unclear on this?

metta
by aflatun
Sat May 06, 2017 2:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: According to the suttas, which comes first...?
Replies: 7
Views: 224

Re: According to the suttas, which comes first...?

I think we all agree that Stream Entry is tantamount to seeing and understanding Dependent Origination. Correct me if I'm wrong. Can we see and understand Dependent Origination without seeing and understanding Cessation? My answer is no, as such an understanding would seem to be nothing more than a ...
by aflatun
Fri May 05, 2017 2:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 3 marks of what, exactly?
Replies: 109
Views: 1949

Re: The 3 marks of what, exactly?

Thank you for posing this question Spiny! I don't have the time to type out all my thoughts on this at the moment, but this post by Sujato came to mind: One popular contemporary interpretation sees ‘sankharas’ here as ‘conditioned phenomena’, or more precisely, the phenomena of experience as active ...
by aflatun
Thu May 04, 2017 4:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...

Greetings aflutun, Thanks! AN 4.126 was the one I was thinking of. :twothumbsup: As opposed to arahantship in this life per se, it leads to noble rebirth in the pure abodes, which, as AN 4.125 suggests, will see unbinding take place there. It's rare (possibly not even mentioned once?) for a noble b...
by aflatun
Wed May 03, 2017 2:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...

Maybe this one was what we were remembering: Dasama Sutta AN 11.17 "Then again, a monk keeps pervading the first direction with an awareness imbued with good will, likewise the second, likewise the third, likewise the fourth. Thus above, below, & all around, everywhere, in its entirety, he ...
by aflatun
Wed May 03, 2017 1:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...
Replies: 8
Views: 207

Re: Looking for a specific sutta on metta...

Good morning Retro: Metta Sutta AN 4.126 There is the case where an individual keeps pervading the first direction — as well as the second direction, the third, & the fourth — with an awareness imbued with good will. Thus he keeps pervading above, below, & all around, everywhere & in eve...
by aflatun
Tue May 02, 2017 11:04 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda
Replies: 42
Views: 1881

Re: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda

Thanks Mkoll, The style of the lectures has been that Ven Analayo reads Ven Nanananda's text, but adds some clarifying comments, and also gives more modern English translations (mostly from Bhikkhu Bodhi, including his upcoming Sutta Nipata translation). At the start of each lecture, he has a brief...
by aflatun
Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The 1st foundation of mindfullness
Replies: 26
Views: 388

Re: The 1st foundation of mindfullness

Sorry guys, I don't follow this, can you explain? I will give an analogy of a movie motion picture From the technical perspective there is no "movie" there is just bunch of frames arising and ceasing, however from the perspective of the person watching the movie there is a movie motion pi...

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