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by aflatun
Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Pali
Topic: exact meaning of the fetter "attachment to rites and rituals" & the term "precept"
Replies: 20
Views: 249

Re: exact meaning of the fetter "attachment to rites and rituals" & the term "precept"

I tend to think it means exactly what it says, much as abandonment of all views means exactly what it says, etc.

I understand why that's not palatable for many people, but I take it quite literally!

:anjali:
by aflatun
Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The whole body, not the heart, as "seat of consciousness": the Buddha's view
Replies: 11
Views: 247

Re: The whole body, not the heart, as "seat of consciousness": the Buddha's view

Rupa as mere body is an unfortunate translation/interpretation. I would say that the whole world, not merely the body, not merely the heart, as "seat of consciousness". (This statement is intended to be interpreted in a specific way.) I agree (assuming we're both interpreting your stateme...
by aflatun
Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: "Buddhist" epistemology
Replies: 9
Views: 141

Re: "Buddhist" epistemology

It's a subset of Indian Epistemology (pramana). It developed some time after the Buddha due to the increasingly sophisticated debates between Buddhists and Indian thinkers of the Nyaya school. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-india/ The major figures are Dignaga and Dharmakirti. Chec...
by aflatun
Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The meaning of "aggregates subject to clinging are suffering"
Replies: 35
Views: 685

Re: The meaning of "aggregates subject to clinging are suffering"

Hi everyone, Here we look at what is said about the five aggregates and the five aggregates subject to clinging, in SN 22.48. To simplify we consider only 'form'. “And what, bhikkhus, are the five aggregates? Whatever kind of form there is, whether past, future, or present, internal or external, gr...
by aflatun
Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:06 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda
Replies: 24
Views: 760

Re: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda

Here's a recent interview with Bhikkhu Analayo on what he plans to do with the course (among other things): https://www.bcbsdharma.org/article/the-nibbana-interview/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=February%20Newsletter&utm_content=February%20Newsletter+CID_76109da81a317b77bc1eeb0bfab82ced&am...
by aflatun
Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda
Replies: 24
Views: 760

Re: Bhikkhu Anālayo’s e-learning course on the Nibbana sermons by Bhikkhu Katukurunde Ñāṇananda

mikenz66 wrote:Since this is advertised as about sermons 1-11, perhaps it's going to be a three-year marathon...

:coffee:
Mike



Haha I think that's a pace I maybe able to keep up with!

:twothumbsup:
by aflatun
Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:07 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

Just to make sure I'm understanding correctly, is it therefore correct that the individual will always be present for the Arahant so long as he is alive? It's helpful to take a first-person perspective when approaching such a question. Given that the individual is the whole of experience, what he i...
by aflatun
Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:30 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

Greetings, I agree with the bolded aspects of the above quote - elements can only be known via rupa-sanna, perception of form, and it is both anicca and anatta. (Ven. Nanananda also speaks to this point, but I'll not quote anything directly as that might serve only to distract from the topic. If an...
by aflatun
Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:15 am
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

I'm still struggling a bit with how rupa (generally speaking), and the "inaccessibility" of all five aggregates plays into his (Ven. NN) thinking, I'm hoping to gather some quotes that are giving me trouble and posing a question (s) once I've gathered my half baked thoughts :tongue: Both ...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:37 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

I'm suspicious that I'm missing something still with respect to "existence" because there are other statements that seem to imply to me a different take (like the inaccessibility of matter etc I've been making a mess of in the other thread I started). But my thoughts on this are still mud...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:33 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

As I hopefully implied above, from my very green readings I didn't get the impression that ignorance --> existence had anything to do with the positing of an external world independent of experience, just with appropriation? I see the way he's using "existence" as being more or less equiv...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:49 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

Pulga: As I hopefully implied above, from my very green readings I didn't get the impression that ignorance --> existence had anything to do with the positing of an external world independent of experience, just with appropriation? I see the way he's using "existence" as being more or less...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:40 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

“Would it be correct to say that matter is revealed by the act of perception, rather than created?” The answer is: yes, it would. Like we often read in the Suttas: “The eye meets the form”; the form (matter) is already there, and the ‘eye’ discovers it. ‘Matter’ appears with consciousness being the...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:01 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Pathologizing aversion?
Replies: 7
Views: 241

Re: Pathologizing aversion?

........ ......... ........ ............ Does that answer your question? Yes, thank you. But I do believe, and I think retro believes, that 'pathologizing' it and leaving it at that, can block the escape from it via other methods, for example the Buddha's. I agree completely. To bring some symmetry...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Annihilation View - A New Interpretation.
Replies: 35
Views: 634

Re: Annihilation View - A New Interpretation.

Hi aflatun, A:- This is a great topic, thank you for your thoughts Vincent V:- Thank you for the appreciation, but I now see that what I have said is nonsense. A:- I agree that equating Annihilationism with materialism would seem to be too simplistic, rather I think the latter is simply a species o...
by aflatun
Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:28 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Principles of right speech in argumentation
Replies: 27
Views: 583

Re: Principles of right speech in argumentation

There have been a lot of debates when Buddha was teaching. But there are no debates today. I've never seen buddhist monks debate their points of difference today. There are numerous points of difference between bhikkhus but they don't debate anymore. When Theravada monks disagree about a point of D...
by aflatun
Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Pathologizing aversion?
Replies: 7
Views: 241

Re: Pathologizing aversion?

Greetings, Is regarding aversion as "anxiety", "phobia" etc. a means of pathologizing aversion, and thereby leading people to seek remedies to such things in the realm of modern psychology and psychiatry, rather than in the traditional domains of religion & philosophy? If so...
by aflatun
Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:25 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli
Replies: 64
Views: 1361

Re: "Appearance and Existence" by Ven. Ninoslav Ñāṇamoli

Nothing substantial of my own to add here, but I thought I would quote some readings from "Meanings" that touch upon the terms Appearance and Existence here, as Ven. NN uses them. From the letters to Mathias, pages 161-162: However even upādāna is not different from the five-aggregates (no...
by aflatun
Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:57 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Pathologizing aversion?
Replies: 7
Views: 241

Re: Pathologizing aversion?

Greetings, Is regarding aversion as "anxiety", "phobia" etc. a means of pathologizing aversion, and thereby leading people to seek remedies to such things in the realm of modern psychology and psychiatry, rather than in the traditional domains of religion & philosophy? If so...

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