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by ToVincent
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2250
Views: 145931

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

cappuccino wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:37 pm

you're trying to justify annihilation,
while missing the difference between no self & not self
Ah ok !
No problem.
?!?!
by ToVincent
Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2250
Views: 145931

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

I think you're arguing for annihilation although I'm not sure From a Humean or Lockean point of view - yes. From an early Buddhist point of view - no. You should read section 4 - Annihilationism (Ucchedavādā) of DN1. Annihilationists (to their greatest extent), did not believe in a self beyond the ...
by ToVincent
Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2250
Views: 145931

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

there are two types of consciousness — the consciousness aggregate, and consciousness without surface accesstoinsight Nidassana = Nidarśana Viññanam anidassanam = Consciousness that is not becoming visible (invisible) [that is not manifested]. निदर्शन nidarśana [agt. nidṛś] निदृश् nidṛś [ni-dṛś] √...
by ToVincent
Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:48 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Choong Mun-keat in his book The Fundamental Teachings of Early Buddhism pp. 202-204 discusses a few SN and SA discourses on the concept of ahara "nutriment". Hi, I agree that we should study the following texts with parallels. That is to say SN 12.11/SA 371; SN 12.12/SA 372; SN 12.63/SA 373 & SN 12...
by ToVincent
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:58 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Manu is used in the suttas, I said previously, as the primeval man and thinking creature. In which sutta? (DPPN gives only late sources like Culavamsa). _________ Also we have to take into account, how often the word is used in a particular meaning. Happy are those born of Manu Sukhitāva te manujā ...
by ToVincent
Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Once more, the issue is not to know if manu (as "wise") exists or not (elsewhere) in the suttas, and if you prefer your reading of it- the issue is about the validity of looking at Sanskrit-English dictionaries, without being called "not-Buddhist". One can do a more throughout study, investigating ...
by ToVincent
Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

DooDoot wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:34 am
ToVincent wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:20 pm
parallels
My impression is the Chinese parallels are hundreds of years later than the suttas.
Oh !
You are still at that level !?!?
Ok - no problem.
by ToVincent
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Can you show any other place in Tipitaka , where anuyogaṁ anuyutta is sandhied as anuyogamanuyuttā ? The choice between these two types of writing is up to the editor. And, btw, "yes" I can show (Vinaya, Mahavagga, 251 in Myanmar edition): Now at that time the monks of Bhaddiya were addicted to the...
by ToVincent
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Both translators skipped the translation of "manu", because there is no translation of manu (मनु manu) as "wise", in any Pali-English-dictionary. Only in the Monier-Williams'. Can you show any other place in Tipitaka, where "manu" is used? But not as a part of compound or sandhi (because you can re...
by ToVincent
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:20 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

As usual, you are incorrectly splitting hair to have a say It think the sutta quotes made (particularly AN 10.61) showed your views were incorrect. That is a profound ontological question indeed. "Ontological" is unrelated to Buddhism. The Buddha never used the word "ontological", "non-ontological"...
by ToVincent
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Study Group
Topic: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???
Replies: 26
Views: 565

Re: SN 12.31: Why is the term "nutriment" used ???

Āhāra is not just nutriment (food); it is the underlying wish (desire) to take to one's self or appropriate. I am not sure the Pali supports the above. For example, in SN 12.63 , it appears nutriment continues to be consumed but without desire & without appropriation; as follows: I suppose the unde...
by ToVincent
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: anicca, impermanence or?
Replies: 21
Views: 321

Re: anicca, impermanence or?

cappuccino wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:11 am
ToVincent wrote: Or do we have just to develop/cultivate the perception of anicca.
keep it simple
Well, it sounds like sectarianism hasn't made it so.
Nor did Pali.
by ToVincent
Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: anicca, impermanence or?
Replies: 21
Views: 321

Re: anicca, impermanence or?

Perceiving impermanence, bhikkhus, developed and frequently practised, removes all passion (vehement desire) for sensuality, removes all passion for materiality, removes all passion for existence, removes all ignorance, and uproots all conceit of ’I am.’” Aniccasaññā, bhikkhave, bhāvitā bahulīkatā ...
by ToVincent
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: anicca, impermanence or?
Replies: 21
Views: 321

Re: anicca, impermanence or?

Aniccasaññābhāvanānuyogamanuyuttā May I just add that this aniccasaññābhāvanānuyogamanuyuttā in MN 118, of which I have even forgotten the sañña part in my translation, does not even appear in the samyukta-āgama parallel. No mention whatsoever of this "connected with the wise examination of what has...
by ToVincent
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: anicca, impermanence or?
Replies: 21
Views: 321

Re: anicca, impermanence or?

This is transcendence in Buddhism (https://justpaste.it/1c78w). to avoid confusion, I will ignore please quote from the scriptures Well, the scriptures certainly don't say that you have to make One out of the internal and the external. You might find that concept in some "temples" (Hindu, etc.), bu...