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by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

If the reality does not exist, then how is it that modern quantum theory - (not youtube plesiosaurian quantum buncombe - good for "moha-ted" kind of people :shock: :o :shock: ) - says that it is the detection of reality , that has the interfering probability amplitude waves vanish instantly. If the ...
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

Not exactly. If there is no possibility for an observer to "hit that reality" that reality literally doesn't exist. The wave function is not collapsed. The chair doesn't exist at all. There is no "reality" or "object" to be hit in the first place. As was said before: "Once the particle (single real...
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

In short, what we know now is that: if there is a chair and no one is observing the chair, the chair still exists if there is the possibility of a conscious observer observing it in the future. Indeed the reality of the chair is due to the irreversible interaction between systems. Not to the need o...
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

... I don't really see what Quantum physics has to do with internal and external? - And I would not spend my time on that. The need for an observer is just buncombe. That's old "quantum" physics. An observer (human or machine,) is not necessary. The world has been going through billions of years of...
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

Yes, "nice intention". After all, I'm hardly a poster-child for Theravada Mahavihara orthodoxy myself. There must be some great finesse in your humourous remark; but, as usual, your red herrings are not answering my question. Viz. "why my detractors haven't yet answered my points of grammar that, I...
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

retrofuturist wrote: I readily admit to finding much of what you write rather impenetrable
aflatun wrote: I still don't follow
The ways of the Loooooord are impenetrable!
by ToVincent
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:27 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

but I have seen enough counter-views expressed across the forum to discern that your renderings are not necessarily orthodox. Sure! "That's not a problem per se" - as you put it - but you are still mentioning it, with a nice intention attached to it, I presume. However, it sounds like everytime, I ...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

But do feel free to explain what you mean (as you've started doing in the post immediately above), rather than dismissively insinuating that your potentially idiosyncratic perspective is Buddhism 101. Strangely enough, I had already came up with some lengthily post on viññāṇa lately. Maybe that sho...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

There is a sutta that deals with external and internal, and that is pretty interesting - and that is SN 52.1 For if you look closely to that sutta, you realize that everything is about "flow". Samudaya samudayati: samudeti [saṃ-√ud-√i] Samudeti [saṁ+udeti] Udeti [ud + eti of √i ] Vaya [Sk.व्यय vyaya...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

They're my words, not his, through you can do a word-search of his Nibbana Sermons for the term "bifurcation" and you will find more. The bifurcation of sense-base and object is the arising of the world. I hope that everyone that has spent more than a year on this forum, has understood that vi-ññāṇ...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

The "full integration" spoken of is not about merging as one, but about learning to stop tearing experience in two (e.g. dichotomies such internal/external, self/others, like/dislike) That is just sophistry to me. Your Nanananda is not clear. Explain to me how your Nanananda arrives at "stopping te...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

retrofuturist wrote:
Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:26 pm
...
"Everything" and its contrary".
Not a bad tactic.
That can work on some people.
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

.... I don't know much about Nanananda. I just know that I have a hard time with his "understanding" of the "vortex". Something he relates to the internal & the external. When it is just simply the establishment of consciousness that triggers the descent of nāmarūpa; which in turn creates manosañce...
by ToVincent
Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

No, it's not. It has nothing to do with self-view. If you can find anything in Nanananda's works that actually advocates self-view, do please let me know. Until such time, your over-the-top reactions to what you disagree with, or have not bothered to understand on its own terms, will be regarded by...
by ToVincent
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 141
Views: 2245

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

Spiny Norman wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:36 pm
It is just a different understanding. Don't assume that anyone with a different view to yours must be wrong.
Ah ok!
by ToVincent
Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Internal / External - significance and meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 878

Re: Internal / External - significance and meaning

https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=30445&sid=dbf7e5b5b4c7138bfc4e06908ceec2d4#p441821 Nanananda, in Nibbana Sermons wrote: The cessation of the vortex is the freedom from that duality. It is a solitude born of full integration. AGAIN - Pure Upaniṣadic and Hinduist philosophy = Self view. ...
by ToVincent
Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?
Replies: 141
Views: 2245

Re: Phassa and the cessation of phassa?

Ajahn Buddhadasa had some interesting words on phassa: Another method: For the average person, it is extremely difficult to prevent phassa from developing into vedana. As soon as there is sense-contact, the feelings of satisfaction or dissatisfaction always follow immediately. It doesn't stop at ph...
by ToVincent
Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:02 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 12
Views: 311

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

.... above Why one has always to mix temporary and permanent, with eradication? Isn't that a bit overdone? I have stopped smoking permanently; that does not mean that, sometimes, I don't feel like having a cigarette. ------------ Also, I don't see what "essentiality" has to do with Jhāna here? I am...
by ToVincent
Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:51 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 12
Views: 311

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

This is an addendum.

Just an attempt to make a parallel between Ānāpānasati and Jhāna.
https://justpaste.it/1cmhg
by ToVincent
Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:22 pm
Forum: Modern Interpretations
Topic: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.
Replies: 12
Views: 311

Re: Idiot-syncratic Ānāpānasati cheatsheet.

And seclusion is about entrenching oneself in the internal only. The body, the breath, etc. Sure, but it is a temporary seclusion, and that is the case for all sitting meditation. In any case, the culmination of the practice is insight in the fourth tetrad. I don't know what you really mean by "tem...