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by ToVincent
Thu May 28, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata
Replies: 7
Views: 89

Re: Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata

1. Do not confound paccaya with saṅkhata. 2. Nibbāna has different "steps". 3. We are specifically talking about asaṅkhata in relation to nibbāna. We have to wonder how the following dhammas have come to be: “Form, feeling (experience), and perception (acquiescence with intent), consciousness (knowl...
by ToVincent
Thu May 28, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata
Replies: 7
Views: 89

Re: Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata

Pali (PTS)): Khata [pp.of kṣan,to wound] hurt,wounded. SANSKRIT (MW): √ क्षन् kṣan - to hurt , injure , wound ŚBr. - to hurt one's self , be injured or wounded AV. ŚBr. TBr. Past participle active: kṣata = who has hurted (oneself). Nibbāna asaṅkhata dhamma »» lit. Nibbāna, the dhamma who has not (a)...
by ToVincent
Thu May 28, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata
Replies: 7
Views: 89

Nibbāna & Asaṅkhata

For those who are still struggling with the "conditioned" aspect of Nibbāna, may they also realize that khata in asaṅkhata, means (also) "that does not wound" — Khata as the past participle of kṣan = to wound. Nibbāna, the dhamma that does not wound. (Instead of Nibbāna the unconditioned dhamma). I ...
by ToVincent
Thu May 28, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Sleight of hand?
Replies: 71
Views: 465

Re: Sleight of hand?

Although I have no particular love for the Upanishads, I did read them (the pre-Buddhism and close contemporary ones) - And I also did read Veda as a whole (excluding the Atharva - which I just use as a pre-Buddhist Indian text, for lexicographical purpose only). So I am not just pretending to know ...
by ToVincent
Sat May 23, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: Pāli
Topic: mind (citta- or mano-)
Replies: 7
Views: 236

Re: mind (citta- or mano-)

These extracts might show the difference between mano & citta: In one who has joy, delight arises. In one who has delight of mano, the body becomes serene. When the body is serene, one feels pleasure. Feeling pleasure, the citta becomes established. When the mind is established, phenomena become man...
by ToVincent
Fri May 22, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Pāli
Topic: mind (citta- or mano-)
Replies: 7
Views: 236

Re: mind (citta- or mano-)

Favor Anandajoti's translation.

Those who will restrain the mind/citta — that roams far (dūraṅgamaṃ), is lonesome (ekacaraṃ), without a body (asarīraṃ), hidden (guhāsayaṃ - lit. "inclined to hide") — gain release from the bonds of Māra.
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by ToVincent
Fri May 22, 2020 4:54 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?

ToVincent There is no blissful and continuous Self/self (atta) - like Ka - in the salayatana nidana and below. Is that hard to understand. I don't care about what the "materialists" thought. That's your problem. Actually, it’s your problem. Now learn about Self/self in the Veda. Maybe you'll find t...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?

You seem to be arguing that the Buddha only denied a divine self. Did I ever mean that? There is no blissful and continuous Self/self (atta) - like Ka - in the salayatana nidana and below. Is that hard to understand. I don't care about what the "materialists" thought. That's your problem. Now learn...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

:candle:
Ceisiwr wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 6:12 pm
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You want dancing lessons.
You pay the bill?
If I need lessons on Veda, I'll call you.
Maybe we can arrange something.

Meanwhile, when did I "argue that the Buddha criticised the idea of a divine Self or self,..."?!?!?
:rolleye:
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by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

I’ll take that as a no then. Nothing wrong in being an amateur of course. _________ The materialists didn’t believe in a “ka” or divine self, but they still thought there was a self or being. How does your analysis apply to them? I can only repeat the question. At this point you seem to be evading ...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

So, have you studied these texts and Sanskrit professionally? I’m just interested if you have qualifications in them or not. I think you should ask people if they are part of a sect, cult, or any secret fraternal order or fellowship. That would be more proper. Moreover, when I see Sujato translatin...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

Hi Vincent, What’s your background in Sanskrit and Vedic texts/lexicography? Do you have qualifications in it or are you self taught? What's yours, Bro? -------- ToVincent: There is no Ka — the continuous and blissful self — in saḷāyatana nidāna and below — because things are neither continuous (an...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

confusedlayman wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:54 am
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Ultimate, conventional, etc.
What's that?
Where in the suttas?

Oh, late stuff!
Ah ok! — whatever you say.
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 11:30 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

Greetings, You may see no refutation but it's as plain as day. The translator even comments on it in their translation note. Holy Molly — how long is this nonsense going to last? For as long as you deny what the Sutta says? :shrug: For as long as you persist with this Ka caca? :shrug: Metta, Paul. ...
by ToVincent
Thu May 21, 2020 7:36 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is being quoted in this Visuddhimagga quote?
Replies: 31
Views: 501

Re: Right effort and anatta

The first post of this sequence Visuddhimagga XIX19 “There is no doer of a deed, or one who reaps the result. Phenomena alone flow on, no other view than this right. points out that there are no doers of deeds, and that the characteristics of action are imaginary. That would appear to be fairly unc...