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by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:09 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?
Replies: 25
Views: 210

Re: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?

SarathW wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:59 pm
There is no distinction whatsoever between saṃsāra and
nirvāṇa.
Does this mean without Samsara there is no Nibbana?
Or
Samsara and Nibbana the two sides of the same coin?
It means they are completely identical. As in, realization of saṃsāra is realization of nirvāṇa. Afaik/IMO.
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Joke!!! 2.0
Replies: 88
Views: 4760

Re: Joke!!! 2.0

When I see curling at the Olympics I tend to think "brooming, sweeping . . . seriously; this is a sport?!" I'll bet their wives say, "look at him sweeping; at home I can't even get him to take out the garbage." It's funny to see Americans point out the sweeping as something funny about curling. In ...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?
Replies: 25
Views: 210

Re: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?

Once you get to 'Non-Returner' the biggest problems arise. A bodhisattva is not a non-returner. A bodhisattva returns. That is the audacity of Mahāyāna. "Once-returner" corresponds more-or-less perfectly to the attainment of the first bodhisattva bhūmi. From then on, non-returner & arahat do not ap...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:50 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?
Replies: 25
Views: 210

Re: Do we find four stages of sainthood in Mahayana or Vajrayana?

How old the Mahayana Sutra? Do you find four stages of sainthood there? I think the person in question meant older sūtrāṇi in general, like the Prajnāpāramitāsūtrāṇi. Mahāyāna is bodhisattvayāna. There is an exonym, or a made-up name, that Mahāyāna calls the older non-bodhisattvayāna traditions of ...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Here . This one should work. This verse from page 302: There is no distinction whatsoever between saṃsāra and nirvāṇa. There is no distinction whatsoever between nirvāṇa and saṃsāra Is there any parallel to this in Theravada? And therein lies the controverted point. From earlier, p.296: ya ājavaṃja...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Nirvāṇaparīkṣā Nāgārjunasya ('Nirvāṇa-Analysis of Nāgārjuna', see MMK xxv/25, or p. 302 here if you do not have a copy on-hand) The page 302 link doesn't work. Apologies. Here . This one should work. There seems to be a real disconnect when it comes to Theravada and its relationship to Nagarjuna an...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Can you elaborate? Which interpretations of nibbāna do u refer to? Abiding and non-abiding? It seems like ineffability is common throughout all religions when talking about a transcendent reality no matter what it is called. If we take Nagarjuna's writings as the definitive 'view' on Mahayana, does...
by Coëmgenu
Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

RIght, that's a example of what I was saying-- a description of the state of nibbana which is somewhat fundamentally ineffable in the Pali Canon IS described in other Buddhist religions. Sometimes they don't even seem like the same religion because of those vast differences. Can you elaborate? Whic...
by Coëmgenu
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

If we refer to early buddhist texts , you can't find any elaborative affirmative description about the state of Nibanna , whereas , the Mahayana and Zen has . The Theravada teachings emphasized merely on the path . Mahayana , Zen and Vajrayana more on the liberation description . RIght, that's a ex...
by Coëmgenu
Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice
Replies: 85
Views: 1013

Re: Hindu Practice Vs Buddhist Practice

See also this thread: https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?t=23038 where I posted: This is just for fun and not meant to impose any value, positive or negative or any derogatory notions. Pure Land Buddhism ---> most similar to general protestant Christianity (salvation, prayer, married clergy) Chi...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Early Buddhism
Topic: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?
Replies: 31
Views: 578

Re: Is the idea of multiple "degrees" of Arhat a later development?

He also says the EA has no references to Arhats "liberated both ways" at all. He comes to a conclusion the the notion of "multiple degrees of arhatship" is a later development, one that resulted when the definition of "Arhat" was expanded to include more people. Anyway, I do encourage people to rea...
by Coëmgenu
Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

I'll give you a better "academic" answer, with citations and whatnot, in a few.
by Coëmgenu
Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

For many the belief in monastic lineage is an empty ritual and they take the buddha's advise and don't indulge in it. chownah Precisely why Theravada nuns have valid ordinations IMO. Still, sectarians like to harp. Just let monastics practice. Regardless of ordination lineage. I once did my own ver...
by Coëmgenu
Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

chownah wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:58 am
For many the belief in monastic lineage is an empty ritual and they take the buddha's advise and don't indulge in it.
chownah
Precisely why Theravada nuns have valid ordinations IMO. Still, sectarians like to harp.

Just let monastics practice. Regardless of ordination lineage.
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:42 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

In relation to this point only ordination is invalid "Ordination is invalid" for participation in a traditional or older Theravāda saṅgha, like the Thai State-Saṅgha, or those out of Sri Lanka, pending some sort of invitation. "Ordination is invalid" in general though, is an absurd value statement. ...
by Coëmgenu
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Actually, I can see where you are coming from, from a certain angle. Framing it as "a different religion" is certainly a personal opinion of yours, but they are definitely members of a different saṃgha, namely the Dharmaguptaka. Calling them "not monks" is a bit of a innovation on your part, as even...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

There is no such thing as "vinaya-observance" taken alone. There are very different distinct Buddhist traditions which must be taken as a whole. You can't just throw away all doctrinal part. Actually, a sangha with monks who have unsolved disputes can't carry out any procedures. At first they must ...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Dharmaguptaka is not Mahāyāna. Nor is it Vajrayāna. Dharmaguptaka is not a "different religion" than Buddhism. It is a set of ordination vows. What about the Dharmaguptaka prātimokṣa makes it illegitimate to you? How is it substantially different from the Pāli? Okay, right now there is no Dharmagup...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Dharmaguptaka isn't Mahayana. Most monks and nuns ordained in the Dharmaguptaka lineage practice Mahayana, but the Dharmaguptaka vinaya has no Mahayana content within. And mahayana isn't a school at all. This is, well, just a whole new religion, where Vajrayana is still yet another one. Monks of on...
by Coëmgenu
Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Theravada and Mahayana need each other
Replies: 59
Views: 1063

Re: Theravada and Mahayana need each other

Dharmaguptaka isn't Mahayana. Most monks and nuns ordained in the Dharmaguptaka lineage practice Mahayana, but the Dharmaguptaka vinaya has no Mahayana content within. The Dharmaguptaka vinaya predates Mahayana considerably. It is a shravaka vinaya, not a bodhisattva vinaya. If they are ordained and...