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by Garrib
Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:50 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

I have just learned of Bikkhu Samahita’s passing. I have read the comments and I feel that as Dhamma practitioners we are missing something very important. Bikkhu Samahita was not only a monk he was also clearly an Ajahn or Dhamma teacher of the highest calibre: in that capacity his modern means of...
by Garrib
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:53 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Refuge is taken in the not-good Dhamma
Replies: 40
Views: 739

Re: Refuge is taken in the not-good Dhamma

Even if you assume we are not in the age of the "good Dhamma", and even if you conclude that this means attainment is impossible (I do not believe this by the way), wouldn't the quality of future rebirths give sufficient cause to practice as best as you possibly can? In other words, there is still n...
by Garrib
Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Theories are useless
Replies: 43
Views: 1065

Re: Theories are useless

I think sometimes being overly theoretical can be a problem, especially when the theory in question is a)irrelevant, b)fundamentally flawed, or c) does not result in meaningful behavior change (which may not really be the theory's fault - we might need to take responsibility). However, I would cauti...
by Garrib
Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

I addressed this earlier, an arahant has no future births. They can do as they please, I imagine an arahant would be of perfect balanced mind always. But why with their limitless compassion would they choose this route given the sensitivity of this to those left behind? I’m discussing non arahants ...
by Garrib
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:13 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Is the monastic suicide topic overrated?
Replies: 18
Views: 744

Re: Is the monastic suicide topic overrated?

Someone can teach compassion and lack compassion at times. Someone can provide medical advice and need it from others at time. There are some problems even a doctor cannot solve for themselves. We dont discount an actors work because they end their own life. We dont discount a scientists discoverie...
by Garrib
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

It’s the suicide leading to birth in the undesirable states that has me questioning. Can you please provide support for this view? (that anyone who commits suicide necessarily takes a lower rebirth. Please remember we have already discussed arahants "taking the knife" - these accounts, if you accep...
by Garrib
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:28 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

It’s the suicide leading to birth in the undesirable states that has me questioning. Can you please provide support for this view? (that anyone who commits suicide necessarily takes a lower rebirth. Please remember we have already discussed arahants "taking the knife" - these accounts, if you accep...
by Garrib
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

So it seems if your an arahant you can go as you please, your safe, but for others it is frowned upon. The others is whom I’m gearing this discussion towards as we’re not talking about an arahant monk who took his life. It seems the buddha was very much against this. Ok - but to be fair, we have no...
by Garrib
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

Greetings thepea, Goenka retreats take a lot of criticism, but goenka was a very realized teacher, his dhamma is complete and pure. I have had a couple of monks openly criticize goenka as being a weak dhamma. This is confusing to me and has only led me to feel that they were the weak and confused. ...
by Garrib
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:44 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

Perhaps you could list the sutras, I’m not that familiar to dig them up. From the Payasi Sutta (Here, suicide is considered a dangerous and unwise attempt to gain the next life): 12. ‘Whatever you may say about that, Reverend Kassapa, [330] I still think there is no other world...’ ‘Have you any re...
by Garrib
Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

thepea wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:46 pm
...I do not feel that anyone established in the Buddha’s dhamma would be capable of committing suicide.
So, you dispute the veracity of suttas in which this actually occurs?
by Garrib
Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:46 am
Forum: Dhammaduta (Dhamma propagation)
Topic: Preserving the teachings of Bhikkhu Samahita
Replies: 4
Views: 1611

Re: Preserving the teachings of Bhikkhu Samahita

Dear Friends, This is Venerable Pannavati at Heartwood Refuge in North Carolina. Bhante was a dear Dhamma brother. I arranged for his visit to the US the past two years and we had made plans for an extended stay in the US in 2020. I cherish my last image of him moving through the line at AVL in aug...
by Garrib
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

I think it is very possible that Bhante thought his actions consistent with Dhamma according to his understanding. Let us not forget that there are cases of Bhikkhus who take their own life in the Pali Canon, and who, according to the Buddha, did so blamelessly - because they achieved liberation. I...
by Garrib
Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Monastics and suicide
Replies: 592
Views: 19295

Re: Monastics and suicide

The concern is that a Bhikkhu who takes his life after decades of practice seems to have absolutely failed at dhamma. In the goenka tradition you sit and serve retreats, if someone is only sitting courses, and remaining quiet confusion could go undetected. But as this is middle path you are not to ...