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by Pragmatic
Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:24 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

That's pretty much it. I imagine the mind of one who has attained Nibbāna is the equivalent of water flowing down a slab of pristine white marble, compared to coarse and dirtied rock. Nibbāna is not like a 4K HD TV slab most people think it is. :smile: But this metaphor for the mind of Nibbana pres...
by Pragmatic
Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:18 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

But a too rigorous effort to empty the goal of all affective connotation may err in the opposite direction, may desiccate rather than simply weaken a practice. Nibbāna is bliss, but it is only bliss because it is a complete and absolute absence of dukkha. It is not bliss due to pleasure, which is a...
by Pragmatic
Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:21 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

... The goal of the Buddhist path could be seen like this, but even the pure rapture of the jhānas, boundless loving-kindness, compassion and so on are not the end goal. On the contrary, to desire such pleasurable sensations— or the expected bliss of Nibbāna —are forms of craving. Even if there is ...
by Pragmatic
Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:26 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

All good and well. Take care. Not to trouble you further but I feel I need to add a little addendum, a suggestion from an outsider on how the dhamma could be better presented to outsiders without betraying core principles. I feel it's a question of emphasis, of focusing less on the associated goal ...
by Pragmatic
Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:17 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: New research on the earliest strata of the Pali Canon
Replies: 2
Views: 681

Re: New research on the earliest strata of the Pali Canon

Paul Davy wrote:Greetings Pragmatic,

You'll often find such things discussed in the Early Buddhism section.

Metta,
Paul. :)
Thanks Paul. I'll have a look.
by Pragmatic
Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:23 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

But here's the point I've already made in another post in slightly different words: conditionality is precisely how we exist; we know of no other existence outside of conditionality. So if we are to dissolve conditionality without having in view any other mode of existence, but simply the end of re...
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:55 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: New research on the earliest strata of the Pali Canon
Replies: 2
Views: 681

New research on the earliest strata of the Pali Canon

I don't know that this is a fringe topic, but being a fringe person...

I believe daverupa mentioned somewhere research on the earliest strata of the Canon. So is there recent interesting research, and where would I find it?

Thanks in advance, Pragmatic.
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:38 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

... Hi Pragmatic, Maybe you missed my post (maybe not though), but it talks about some things you mentioned as well as some other things you posted in 'the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread'. Once one has attained Nibbāna, there is no more dukkha. The roots that cause ...
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:34 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

Buddha never said there is no soul. He merely said, there is a jungle of views, a fetter of views. Hi cappuccino. Good point to bring up. In my admittedly amateur reading of the early suttas I see the Buddha making basically four points about "self", three explicit and one implicit: 1. There is no ...
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:05 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

That is to say, the annihilation the materialist assumes to achieve without effort the Buddha tells us must be laboriously earned. Well, you're assuming that the post-death situation is the goal, but the ultimate aim is the reduction & elimination of dukkha, which doesn't have to make reference to ...
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2265
Views: 190381

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

Thanks samseva. I agree with what you say here. I would only add that such a practice probably requires an underlying fervor to escape samsara, the same fervor that I sense on reading the early suttas and which I think is one of the keys to their appeal. I agree, but with "almost doesn't matter tha...
by Pragmatic
Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:26 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

Hi Pragmatic What do you mean by annihilation? Annihilation of what? According to Buddhism there is no self to be annihilated. If you say annihilation of attachment, aversion or ignorance, it may be applicable here. Hi SarahW. Thanks for your response. Yes I'm very familiar with this explanation, w...
by Pragmatic
Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:48 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

I still don't understand the practical difference between the first two options on the poll. The first is a materialism; everyone dies the same, with the same result: annihilation of the person, their ending and utter cessation. The second is a parinibbana that comes after practice, not automatical...
by Pragmatic
Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:29 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:
Replies: 159
Views: 32981

Re: In your view, understanding, Parinibbana is:

Thanks for this survey, and the opportunity to frame my own question. I've always been puzzled by the distinction between options 1 and 2, between the straight forward materialist expectation of postmortem annihilation and the common Buddhist understanding, as supported here, that with rebirth one h...
by Pragmatic
Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread
Replies: 2265
Views: 190381

Re: the great Nibbana = annihilation, eternal, or something else thread

4. The non-questioning approach. Here the drive to escape suffering, the distaste for samsara, for ordinary life is so pressing that it almost doesn't matter that one may be courting annihilation. [...] I would add a fifth one. The one with correct practice sounds a bit like blind faith and over-re...