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by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Matthew 7:1-3
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

"Don't say that, friend Yamaka. Don't misrepresent the Blessed One. It's not good to misrepresent the Blessed One, for the Blessed One would not say, 'A monk with no more effluents, on the break-up of the body, is annihilated, perishes, & does not exist after death.'"

Yamaka Sutta
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

the Other Shore

:shrug:

the Island,
the Refuge, the Beyond.
~ S 43.1-44
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

you're asking if I think consciousness is self
&
you're asking if I think Nirvana has consciousness

these are different questions

you should separate these issues
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

I think existence continues as always

differently subjectively
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

"consciousness" (viññāṇa) — that self is permanent, stable, eternal, not subject to change, and it will remain the same just like eternity itself.'
not subject to change
is the err

it will remain the same
is the err
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

there is nothing for me to explain, the status quo is set in stone
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

rightviewftw wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:18 pm
Explain how something that is not made fascilitates eternal existence?
existence is the status quo, you for some reason think it can be otherwise

even though Deathless implies existence
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

the island … the shelter … the asylum … the refuge
the Everlasting
the unailing state … Nibbāna
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

Having nothing, clinging to nothing: that is the Island, there is no other; that is Nibbæna, I tell you, the total ending of ageing and death. ~ SN 1094 It is the Unformed, the Unconditioned, the End, the Truth, the Other Shore , the Subtle, the Everlasting, the Invisible, the Undiversified, Peace, ...
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

eternal ism is the view of same identity (err)

eternity is another matter (Nirvana is everlasting)

annihilation ism deserves rebuke
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: enlightenment in theravada
Replies: 43
Views: 325

Re: enlightenment in theravada

Wouldn't that just mean the cessation of experience?

yes basically.
basically that is annihilation ism
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?
Replies: 51
Views: 475

Re: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?

"Furthermore, the monk who is a learner reflects, 'Is there outside of this [doctrine & discipline] any brahman or contemplative who teaches the true, genuine, & accurate Dhamma like the Blessed One?' And he discerns, 'No, there is no brahman or contemplative outside of this doctrine & discipline wh...
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 213
Views: 2256

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Dinsdale wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:17 am
Presumably if there is no self, then there is nothing there to be annihilated?

Rather, if nothing is self, there is nothing to annihilate.

For that reason, you cannot die.
by cappuccino
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?
Replies: 51
Views: 475

Re: What experiences happiness in Nibbana?

markandeya wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:14 pm
This is Atman and this has to be realized.
Buddha, alone of all teachers and gurus, taught total and complete selfless ness.