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by cappuccino
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

“Just as... the great ocean is vast, boundless, fills not up for all of the streams that flow into it. Precisely so Nibbæna is vast, boundless, fills not up for all of the living beings that pass thereunto. “Good, Reverend Nægasena! It is even so! I agree absolutely!” ~ Miln 315-323 (abridged, E.W....
by cappuccino
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

DooDoot wrote:
cappuccino wrote: I quoted the Kevatta Sutta
Possibly but the quote may not support your personal interpretation of the quote.
I have no personal interpretation
by cappuccino
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

zan wrote: You are trying to promote what you see as right view
we should speak the truth
by cappuccino
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:37 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

“Just as... the great ocean is vast, boundless, fills not up for all of the streams that flow into it. Precisely so Nibbæna is vast, boundless, fills not up for all of the living beings that pass thereunto. “Good, Reverend Nægasena! It is even so! I agree absolutely!” ~ Miln 315-323 (abridged, E.W....
by cappuccino
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

zan wrote:
cappuccino wrote: you should be sorry for promoting the wrong view
The position presented in the op is the position of the commentaries, which, per above, makes this view authoritative and yours incorrect.
I quoted the Kevatta Sutta
by cappuccino
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: Classical Theravāda
Topic: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?
Replies: 31
Views: 687

Re: What is the Classical Theravada argument against consciousness outside the aggregates?

Consciousness without feature,[1]
without end,
luminous all around

Kevatta Sutta
… it differs from the consciousness factor in dependent co-arising, which is defined in terms of the six sense media. Lying outside of time and space, it would also not come under the consciousness-aggregate …
by cappuccino
Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: 4TN are not for everyone
Replies: 70
Views: 1102

Re: 4TN are not for everyone

The annihilation view is not about a denial of 'rebirth'. It is about the idea a 'self' will cease at death (refer to DN 1; Iti 49, etc). Possibly you can study more rather than post 'village folk Buddhism'. Oh yes i see! Actualy you are right, because all our 5 focuses of identity dies with the bo...
by cappuccino
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: 4TN are not for everyone
Replies: 70
Views: 1102

Re: 4TN are not for everyone

cappuccino wrote:
The spiritual faculty of discriminating wisdom must be complemented with that of faith or, in the words of the Buddha, it becomes “cunning, which is as hard to cure as a disease caused by medicine.”
The Right View of Rebirth
:reading:
by cappuccino
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: 4TN are not for everyone
Replies: 70
Views: 1102

Re: 4TN are not for everyone

DooDoot wrote:There is this world & the other world. . . . There are spontaneously arisen beings
from your quote
by cappuccino
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: 4TN are not for everyone
Replies: 70
Views: 1102

Re: 4TN are not for everyone

many times you've been corrected by others

without success
by cappuccino
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: 4TN are not for everyone
Replies: 70
Views: 1102

Re: 4TN are not for everyone

you have to start with right view

you're attempting to skip right view