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by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
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Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

not self is different than no self

no self would imply annihilation

not self would not change anything at all
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

you think in terms of eternity or annihilation

no self?

not self is both eternity and annihilation

not self is neither
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:32 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

rightviewftw wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:23 pm
If you want to say that Vinnana Anidassanam is the consciousness of a being that is impossible
both, neither

rather than either, or
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Consciousness which is non-manifestative, endless, lustrous on
all sides,

Here it is that earth and water, fire and wind, no footing find.
Here again are long and short, subtle and gross, pleasant and
unpleasant
Name and form, all cut off without exceptions.
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
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Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Where consciousness is signless, boundless, all-luminous
~ D 11.81-5
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

my goal is escape from that which is born, created, conditioned and formed

since there is this Unborn, Uncreated, Unconditioned

escape is therefore discerned
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

“There is the Unborn, Uncreated, Unconditioned and Unformed. If there were not, there would be no escape discerned from that which is born, created, conditioned and formed. But, since there is this Unborn, Uncreated, Unconditioned and Unformed, escape is therefore discerned from that which is born, ...
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

“There is that sphere where there is no earth, no water, no fire nor wind; no sphere of infinity of space, of infinity of consciousness, of nothingness or even of neither-perception-nornon-perception; there, there is neither this world nor the other world, neither moon nor sun; this sphere I call ne...
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

His consciousness is annihilated, his form is annihilated, all but [except] the Deathless is annihilated , the conditioned is annihilated. However even the Deathless loses it's meaning after the death of the Arahant as it is rightfully called Deathless in context of the existence of the conditioned...
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
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Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

The Thirty-one Planes of Existence
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dha ... /loka.html

rupa-loka
Cause of rebirth here: jhana
(Beings in these planes enjoy varying degrees of jhanic bliss.)
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:07 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

rightviewftw wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:00 pm
dead people are not absorbed in supramundane absorbtion
although they can be
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

well "cessation" is correct

yet look:

the Island,
the Refuge, the Beyond.
~ S 43.1-44
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
Views: 2099

Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

there is likely no sutta that describes Nirvana as a cessation of perception

since that would make Nirvana annihilation

however, cessation of perception is a (temporary) meditation
by cappuccino
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?
Replies: 210
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Re: Which category belong to for the cessation of feeling perception ?

Zom wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:18 pm
not to speak about total cessation of all perception, which is full and final nibbana.
please post from a sutta?