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by Jason
Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How does Buddhism overcome the problem of moral relativism?
Replies: 57
Views: 4925

Re: How does Buddhism overcome the problem of moral relativism?

Buddhism is moral relativist with respect to speech and actions, since the morality is actually determined by the mindstate [of the person intending and experiencing the results of those mindstates and the actions arising out of them]." What do you mean by this? That if a person believes they are a...
by Jason
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How does Buddhism overcome the problem of moral relativism?
Replies: 57
Views: 4925

Re: How does Buddhism overcome the problem of moral relativism?

This is an interesting question. I would say it's relativistic in the sense that it depends a great deal on our individual intentions. But Buddhist morality is objective in the sense that it's governed by natural laws, so that action x conditioned by y intention gives rise to z result. One could str...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:26 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason Which means trans. There is no need to state it. Why not just go by the convention of "woman"? Because the identity matters. So now identities matter? If so, then their identity is clear. Problem solved. No. I was stating that the identity matters to this nun. The same with being an "out and ...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason Still don't see the issue. They'e non-binary, which means not identifying with either gender. Isn't that what you claim monks should do? Which means trans. There is no need to state it. Why not just go by the convention of "woman"? Because the identity matters. So now identities matter? If so...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Mr Man Okay I didn't see anything about a non-binary nun in either of those threads. On the 2nd one in the Nuns bio (if you click on it) it says "non-binary". If you google them (?) you will find this: Venerable Vimala is a non-binary monastic who was born in the Netherlands in 1967. They studied G...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason I think what you're not understanding is that it isn't about there being a problem in Theravada so much as a problem in general. Nobody has said Theravada is anti-gay. The problem is that many societies have a long history of anti-gay bias and treatment, and many gay people, trans people, etc...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason What aren't you getting is the point that many LGBTQ people face a lot of abuse and violence and people either telling them there's something wrong with them or its their fault that they get they treatment they do. And it can be beneficial to have places that are intentionally open and welcom...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

The point being that there wasn't a gay problem in Theravada that needed solving by having gay only centres. See above. I think what you're not understanding is that it isn't about there being a problem in Theravada so much as a problem in general. Nobody has said Theravada is anti-gay. The problem...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason Because they still experience marginalization and violence and sometimes need/want places where they can feel welcome and safe and not have to hide who they are for fear of violence or rejection. It's not that difficult to understand. Even in places that are considered liberal and tolerant, L...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason Then that is unfortunate and I find it strange that you don't seem to understand why people who have suffered such things would want a Dhamma community that full acknowledges and accepts them and makes them feel welcomed. We already had that. Um, that's exactly what safe spaces are, welcoming...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Why do gays in the west need a special cuddly safe space? Because they still experience marginalization and violence and sometimes need/want places where they can feel welcome and safe and not have to hide who they are for fear of violence or rejection. It's not that difficult to understand. Even i...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason Then maybe you should take some time researching the marginalization and discrimination LGBTQ individuals have had to face all over the world and in every religion. Do you really think I need educating on this matter? Really? I don't live in a bubble. I have myself faced abuse in the past for...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Mr Man wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:41 pm Did Jason specifically mention that "Theravada" a hotbed of anti-gay sentiment.
No, they did not.
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

= Where did you get the notion that Theravada was seen as "some kind of hotbed of anti-gay sentiment"? From Jason's post. Except I never said that. Anti-gay, anti-trans, etc. sentiments exist in pretty much every religion and culture. And some LGBTQ individuals simply find that places which openly ...
by Jason
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns
Replies: 84
Views: 3618

Re: LGBT+ Monks and Nuns

Jason I see nothing shameful about a Buddhist org/meditation group that's open and affirming of LGBTQ individuals, who have often found themselves marginalized and even vilified by religion, and often suffer physical violence for simply being who they are. I, for one, am glad they have a safe space...