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by Subharo
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I hope none of my posts have come off as undermining your intentions of bringing forth whatever sangha-related topics you would like to discuss with fellow monastics in an open manner here. :anjali: You haven't offended me, no worries. For those who are wondering why I am "airing grievances", let m...
by Subharo
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:19 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

5. Seniority principle (respect) is in accord with the nature law , similar to filial piety , is a kind of virtue not otherwise . That is one Dhamma topic which is not discussed very much. ...because it's primarily a Confucian idea, IMHO. Confucius coined the term "filial piety" (not to mention the...
by Subharo
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

BMC 1 , Chapter 2 ("Nissaya"), pg. 36 (bottom), Section "Duties", sub-section "The pupil's duties to his mentor" (and "mentor" expands to meaning both Acariya and Preceptor), item 2 ("Assisting the mentor in any problems he may have with regard to the Dhamma and Vinaya. The Mahavagga lists the foll...
by Subharo
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

It's not just about saving face, it's about preserving one's livelihood! I've weighed the risks and decided to say something anyway. I'm a Majjhima monk (9 vassas), not a Senior monk. If I were to try to have a discussion (in the Westerner sense of that term) with a monk of, say, 20 vassas, then it...
by Subharo
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I don't know how to locate this within the Vinaya BMC 1 , Chapter 2 ("Nissaya"), pg. 36 (bottom), Section "Duties", sub-section "The pupil's duties to his mentor" (and "mentor" expands to meaning both Acariya and Preceptor), item 2 ("Assisting the mentor in any problems he may have with regard to t...
by Subharo
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

- I used to take a martial art, way back when I was a teenager. I noted that the master would never spar with the students, nor compete in tournaments. His two black-belt sons did those things for him. The explanation I got as to why the Master never competed was this: "because if he ever lost in a...
by Subharo
Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

Dhammanando & subharo . I'm a Majjhima monk (9 vassas), not a Senior monk. If I were to try to have a discussion (in the Westerner sense of that term) with a monk of, say, 20 vassas, then it probably wouldn't really be a discussion (again, in the Westerner sense of the term). Hierarchy would probab...
by Subharo
Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I am tantalized into asking, what do you think the long-standing controversies and sticking points are? ... let us know what you think the top 3 are... Retro's third point, below What are the prevailing ideas/views of Hinduism and Confucianism that you (the Senior monks) see as having snuck into Th...
by Subharo
Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:31 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why so few Western Buddhists?
Replies: 153
Views: 2326

Re: Why so few Western Buddhists?

Do you delight in presenting these "feisty" suttas? Do you delight in the buddha presenting "uncomfortable statements"? Delight in? I try not to. Take an interest in? Definitely. I feel there are vast piles of awesome, Canonical, EBT suttas that monks and laypeople are missing out on (and might oth...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why so few Western Buddhists?
Replies: 153
Views: 2326

Re: Why so few Western Buddhists?

I'd like to add to my list of interesting and relevant (at least I feel are relevant) Suttas, basically all of the AN 4's (which is a lot of Suttas, sorry for that). There are many fiesty suttas there (every bit as fiesty as anything I've ever said on this forum), where the Buddha makes very direct ...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:06 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why so few Western Buddhists?
Replies: 153
Views: 2326

Re: Why so few Western Buddhists?

I attempted to give hopefully-constructive (albeit uncomfortable-sounding to the status quo), insightful answers to the OP, which is "Why so few Western Buddhists"? Then I backed it up with a phalanx of Suttas, which you pretty much brushed your hand at and yawned. What I'm getting from you is "Naw,...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why so few Western Buddhists?
Replies: 153
Views: 2326

Re: Why so few Western Buddhists?

How many people actually are Master of the Dhamma ? How many people actually can Master the Dhamma ? Except that it's not clear what the "original teachings of the Buddha" are. In fact, this is one of the controversial topics! ... Except that it is the Buddha himself who does that, which I think is...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why so few Western Buddhists?
Replies: 153
Views: 2326

Re: Why so few Western Buddhists?

That the people who function as formal representatives of the Dhamma have "constructive and meaningful gentlemanly debate"? It's not clear that transparency, "constructive and meaningful gentlemanly debate" really play such an important role in a person's devotion to the Dhamma as you suggest. I'm ...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:57 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I will wait three days, and see what others say, then I will answer your question(s), Polar Bear. I think I need to cool off my chin wagging here a bit.
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

This goes outside the scope of my own question (apologies), but I would like to hear a discussion between Thanissaro Bhikkhu and Sam Harris, over assertions Sam Harris made in his Essay "KIlling the Buddha" Here are some of Sam Harris' spicy assertions he made there: "The wisdom of the Buddha is cur...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:18 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I too read those exchanges between Ajahn Thanissaro, and Bhikkhu Bodhi. Whomever squares off with Ajahn Thanissaro had better be as clever as about 25 foxes and as sharp as a samurai sword.
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:07 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Re: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

OK, agreed. "Debate" is a confrontational word. I changed the title from having "debate" to "discuss and explore". Also softened the wording, emphasizing having a constructive, positive tone, yet isn't just a bunch of "non-juicy" gladhanding. There needs to be at least some challenging-ness to it to...
by Subharo
Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?
Replies: 59
Views: 813

Which Senior Theravada monks should ideally discuss and explore with each other over which topics?

I was inspired to post this question after listening to the following (which mentions Buddhism several times): [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Ud7-EkZEI[/media] I was so impressed with Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson. Please note how even though they seriously challenged each other's core as...