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by SDC
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:55 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

You said Nanavira does not reject rebirth like secular buddhist do, despite the 1 life interpretation of DO that he likes. I am asking you how does rebirth happen in his view ? And please no BS Does this sound like someone who rejects rebirth? To be a follower of the Buddha it is certainly necessar...
by SDC
Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Why are you avoiding the question and playing silly games like this ? What's the point ? But ok, then I shall reformulate the question: What is the cause for consciousness to descend into the womb in Nanavira view ? Same answer. You're still asking the wrong question. You're trying to apply linear ...
by SDC
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Circle5 wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:31 pm
What is the cause for biological birth in Nanavira view ?
The birds and the bees.
by SDC
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

cappuccino wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:42 pm
arising and ceasing is the nature of existence
Well, according to SN 22.38 that nature is not just arising and ceasing. There are 3 'manifestations'. Go take a look.
by SDC
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Also by the first question I meant that "arising" and "ceasing" are by themselves temporal phenomena and I cannot understand how a structural/timeless interpretation of DO can explain the existence of temporal phenomena themselves. I am aware that this question might be a trivial one... Not trivial...
by SDC
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

And you've again avoided to answer the question. As both me and B.Bodhi have shown, Nanavira considers that the proximate cause for biological birth is the puthujjana notions "I was born; I will age and die," or "My self was born; my self ages and dies." This is simply false and not supported by th...
by SDC
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:29 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Happy birthday SDC!
Replies: 11
Views: 118

Re: Happy birthday SDC!

Thanks All! Was a good day!

Thanks for the dope BD tune, aflatun!
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

No, it really isn't his position on rebirth , which is what you said above. This passage is about 'birth', not rebirth. You seem to be interchanging these terms at will. By deffinition, any physical birth happening happening in the context of buddhism is a rebirth. :coffee: That is a bold simplific...
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Suggestion box
Topic: retro, here
Replies: 7
Views: 354

Re: retro, here

Some very helpful suggestions, perkele.

The best thing to do would be:
a) send a request for edits via PM to several members of the staff, or use the "report" button [!] to "report" your post - that will be seen by all the moderators.
b) request a reasonable amount of edits at any given time.
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:21 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

In Nanavira view, belief in a self is the proximate, technical cause of rebirth . This is not his position at all. Really ? 10. Upādānapaccayā bhavo; bhavapaccayā jāti; jātipaccayā jarāmaranam... ('With holding as condition, being; with being as condition, birth; with birth as condition, ageing-&-d...
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

In Nanavira view, belief in a self is the proximate, technical cause of rebirth. This is not his position at all. Do you not agree that physical birth has ended for the arahant ? Of course there will not be another, but that is not what the structural model of PS describes. It is talking about the ...
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

1) This is wrong. Nanavira claims they refer to birth and death of phenomenon that happens every moment. He rejects the idea of those passages reffering to physical birth and physical death, hence the non-agreement with 3 life interpretation. http://nanavira.org/notes-on-dhamma/paticcasamuppada Tha...
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Circle5 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:35 pm

It is also hard to see how they can interpret these passages as reffering to anything other than physical birth and physical death:
Agreed. They see it as physical birth and death. See my above post.
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

And not to foist too much onto the categories of a poll, but its important to note that neither Ven. Nanavira (nor Ven. Nanananda as far as I know) reject transmigration, kamma or any of the "supernatural" elements that "secular" Buddhists have trouble with. Good point. By virtue of the structural ...
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:25 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

DNS wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:54 am



(just kidding) :tongue:
Nice!
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

Circle5 wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:17 am
See ? This is what I'm speaking about...
I had meant to dedicate my post to you in good fun. :D
by SDC
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?
Replies: 161
Views: 1848

Re: Which view on DO resonates with you the most?

But that would mean that Thanissaro and Retro would tick the same box, which really doesn't make sense. Their views are quite distinct. Okay, I updated the poll; so now we all need to re-vote to since updating the poll reset all numbers back to 0. Dude! :x Option 8: Timeless/Atemporal/Structural Da...
by SDC
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is wrong with Sati's pernicious viewpoint?
Replies: 11
Views: 234

Re: What is wrong with Sati's pernicious viewpoint?

Circle5 wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:18 pm
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I like your diagrams. The one you sent me last year about perpendicular direction was also impressive.
by SDC
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Questions about the ToS
Replies: 1
Views: 109

Re: Questions about the ToS

Please take this up via pm. Thank you.
by SDC
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Is this the cutest dog in the world ?
Replies: 12
Views: 273

Re: Is this the cutest dog in the world ?

Circle5 wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:32 pm
Besides the super funny face and hairstyle, he has an incredible personality. It's like a bichon on cocaine. Probably the most playful and most energetic living thing out there.
Well, I can see why you two got a long so well. :tongue: