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by SDC
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: Ordination and Monastic Life
Topic: Monastics protesting social injustice
Replies: 24
Views: 175

Re: Monastics protesting social injustice

I see no problem with a monastic who speaks on social justice, just so long as the path - within that same discourse - is explicitly prioritized over any worldly end. Not ever having ordained I'm not sure how valuable my opinion is, but if that priority is not emphasized, that may give the impressio...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

PeterC86 wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:44 pm
The mind is easily seduced. Thank you for elaborating. Have a nice evening!
You too!
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

Thank you for your answer. So you would rather leave them in their faith in the sutta's, than in supporting them to find Nibbana. The suttas describe the place of faith and how to use it to develop confidence, and eventually, knowledge. The texts surely don't say to remain with faith. The self is n...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

I can never arrive at a position where I understand what the Buddha "really meant", independent of the interpretations which overlay it. The suttas say you can do exactly that, but that is another topic. :stirthepot: Ah, yes, I see what you mean! Agreed, SDC; I shouldn't be so pessimistic! :anjali:...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

What if a commentary explains that the text it comments on is incomplete or partly false? I will not beat around the bush; if I explain that the Vinaya is not compatible with fruition of the 8th Jhana, how is Theravada (in particular this forum) going to handle this commentary? Is a commentary only...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

Sam Vara wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:06 pm
I can never arrive at a position where I understand what the Buddha "really meant", independent of the interpretations which overlay it.
The suttas say you can do exactly that, but that is another topic. :stirthepot:
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

What if a commentary explains that the text it comments on is incomplete or partly false? I will not beat around the bush; if I explain that the Vinaya is not compatible with fruition of the 8th Jhana, how is Theravada (in particular this forum) going to handle this commentary? Is a commentary only...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

Greetings SDC, So...how to do it responsibly... By setting aside such questions and applying the Four Great References instead. As I said recently (to Stero?), our tradition need not be the acceptance of a particular understanding of the suttas - our tradition can be the very process of testing con...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

I think for me it is commentary all the way down. I first became interested in the practices that seemed to bring the most benefit, and the people who seemed to have the most going for them, and the forms of words which were the most congenial. Without those I would have had no more reason to be in...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Censorship
Replies: 42
Views: 443

Re: Censorship

When any group has control of any message and is allowed to twist and suppress other aspects of the same message, is this good for truth. Should we not strive for fertile soil, so all seeds can grow and be publicly seen. I know in my neighbourhood people strive for green grass and pretty flowers on...
by SDC
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Re: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

I guess the question remains, "How do we know a commentary is as reliable as the text it is examining?" Do we just accept it all? The older the better? So...how to do it responsibly... For me, the only reliable interpretation we have nowadays is classical Buddhaghosa's commentaries + Vism + tikas. ...
by SDC
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:16 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition
Replies: 50
Views: 720

Commentary and the Commentarial Tradition

Without commentarial tradition we are lost, all relyers on "EBT" are just making up their own commentaries. If we would look how much do we really know from 4 Nikayas, we wouldn't find many definitive things, not even mentioning that our translations strongly rely on commentarial glosses. Agreed. A...
by SDC
Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why is citta not an aggregate or niddana?
Replies: 36
Views: 862

Re: Why is citta not an aggregate or niddana?

Yes, that's a nice way of thinking about it. To me, the main point is that different terms are used in different contexts, and you give some good examples there. :heart: Mike Thanks, Mike. I just find the word has been intensely analyzed historically, but as it is found in the suttas - apart from h...
by SDC
Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Why is citta not an aggregate or niddana?
Replies: 36
Views: 862

Re: Why is citta not an aggregate or niddana?

Not to knock any of the comprehensive looks at citta so far in this topic, but if we look at suttas on mindfulness, contemplation and recognition of the citta is the understanding of the condition or quality of the mind ( cittānupassī ). The descriptions in MN 10, "Mind with lust...with hate...with ...