My nephew does not wear glasses.tiltbillings wrote:But then one who reads Pali would know one does not take refuge. This whole business of "taking" refuge in monks is a non sequitur. That is not what this thread is about.Brizzy wrote:BTW Being able to read the suttas in the original pali does not make one a better teacher (or worse).
Your nephew:
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It was the family resemblence I was going for.Brizzy wrote:
My nephew does not wear glasses.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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Actually now that you mention it, that monkey looks pretty cute and very wise.tiltbillings wrote:It was the family resemblence I was going for.Brizzy wrote:
My nephew does not wear glasses.
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looks like george burns... so um kinda like god i guess
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat
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Personally, I do not see the issue being one of conformity to the Pali. To me, the issue is one of instruction & method.Brizzy wrote:Is it so outrageous to question certain teachings put forward by teachers, which seem to not quite be in line with the suttas.
To practise 'awareness' is to practise 'staring', 'watching' or 'concentrating'.
Where as to practise mindfulness is to recollect the Dhamma, especially the Dhamma of abandoning craving & grasping.
So the differences between teachers is indicative of their own method of practice.
As I see it, the question is not one of scriptural interpretation. It is a question of practise & method.
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Though we are not at odds with the basic issue, it would seem, as for awareness, it depends upon how you define the word.Yundi wrote:
To practise 'awareness' is to practise 'staring', 'watching' or 'concentrating'.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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God died March 9, 1996.jcsuperstar wrote:looks like george burns... so um kinda like god i guess
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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And may he rest in peace. Along with this thread.
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God or George Burns may be dead, but this thread lives on.alan wrote:And may he rest in peace. Along with this thread.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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I was wondering why nobody brought this up this direct contradiction:
from the interview http://www.tricycle.com/a-mindful-balance
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-su ... tml#stream
from the interview http://www.tricycle.com/a-mindful-balance
And from the words of the Buddha's "How appropriate attention (yoniso manasikara) leads to stream entry:" SN 22.122Q: Does the Buddha ever mention the term manasikara in his mindfulness instructions?
A:Not that I know of. The term figures most prominently in Abhidhamma-based treatises on Buddhist psychology. In the Buddha’s practical instructions on both samatha (tranquility meditation) and vipassana (insight meditation), the terms sati and sampajanna appear most often.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-su ... tml#stream
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That doesn't surprise me, FijiNut, thanks for bringing it up.fijiNut wrote:I was wondering why nobody brought this up this direct contradiction:
from the interview http://www.tricycle.com/a-mindful-balance
And from the words of the Buddha's "How appropriate attention (yoniso manasikara) leads to stream entry:" SN 22.122Q: Does the Buddha ever mention the term manasikara in his mindfulness instructions?
A:Not that I know of. The term figures most prominently in Abhidhamma-based treatises on Buddhist psychology. In the Buddha’s practical instructions on both samatha (tranquility meditation) and vipassana (insight meditation), the terms sati and sampajanna appear most often.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-su ... tml#stream
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The Spice Girls are in fact the esoteric fifth foundation of mindfulnessYundi wrote: Thus the Buddha advised right mindfulness is awareness or contemplation of the four satipatthana rather than the four Spice Girls.
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Wallace leaves something to be desired.fijiNut wrote:I was wondering why nobody brought this up this direct contradiction:
from the interview http://www.tricycle.com/a-mindful-balance
And from the words of the Buddha's "How appropriate attention (yoniso manasikara) leads to stream entry:" SN 22.122Q: Does the Buddha ever mention the term manasikara in his mindfulness instructions?
A:Not that I know of. The term figures most prominently in Abhidhamma-based treatises on Buddhist psychology. In the Buddha’s practical instructions on both samatha (tranquility meditation) and vipassana (insight meditation), the terms sati and sampajanna appear most often.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/index-su ... tml#stream
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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Nice, fijiNut. But was the sutta you posted referring to mindfulness instructions?