Ordination without practice.

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Ordination without practice.

Postby K.Dhamma » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:23 pm

By practice I am curious. Has anyone ever ordained and never attended a retreat?

(edit: i mean, ordained, and did not attend a retreat prior to ordaining)
"Remember you dont meditate to get anything, but to get rid of things. We do it, not with desire, but with letting go. If you want anything, you wont find it." - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Ordination without practice.

Postby daverupa » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:42 pm

I sought ordination having never attended a retreat, but then I used to hike around wilderness areas in a neo-John Muir sort of mode, so there are "non-traditional" retreats which can perhaps motivate ordination intentions.

But this wasn't 'without practice' by any means.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Ordination without practice.

Postby gavesako » Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:51 pm

I was not into retreats before I became a monk. Nor have I attended any retreats (in the usual sense, taught by monks for groups of laypeople) since becoming a monk. In the forest tradition, meditation is more something integrated into the daily routine, although there might be times where most other activities are suspended and one is encouraged to do more meditation than normally. Meditation is mainly something one does individually, with only the morning and evening sessions done together with a group.
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Re: Ordination without practice.

Postby kmath » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:14 pm

I became an anagarika without ever attending a retreat. In your daily life as a monastic, you don't meditate as much as someone would on retreat.

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Re: Ordination without practice.

Postby K.Dhamma » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:19 pm

thank you all for the great replies. :) I hope to ordain soon, hopefully and I have people telling me I should do a retreat first. I don't feel I need to attend a retreat prior and I was just curious. Thank you.
"Remember you dont meditate to get anything, but to get rid of things. We do it, not with desire, but with letting go. If you want anything, you wont find it." - Ajahn Chah

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Re: Ordination without practice.

Postby robertk » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:58 am

You could check the suttas and get an idea of how many laypeople in the Buddhas time went on retreats before ordaining.


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