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Voluntary Euthanasia

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

Postby greenthumb » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:36 am

Thank you Ben, I did go and read legislation here (http://www.premier.tas.gov.au/__data/as ... l_2013.pdf). It is not very complicated and seems to cover many areas where people and institutions may be sued because of all sorts of issues/abuse that come up when someone helps someone else kill themselves. I agree with @dagon regarding our advances in life extending sciences and legislature being at odds. Also I agree strongly with @Bhikkhu Pesala and @SarathW regarding the teachings. Here in the States we are going through a great upheaval regarding centralization of our health insurance and medical system. It was a mess before and now the whole house of cards has fallen and most of us will go into debt, left penniless paying our insurance and if we get sick we will have little say in the Doctors we want or the treatment we seek. Many folk of faith who are against any kind of killing are being forced to pay taxes for abortions and boards of insurance analysts will decide who gets end of life care or expensive surgery and care. Affordable Health Care act is impossible to read it is so convoluted and full of legalese. This makes your small document regarding Voluntary Assisted Dying look very simple and straightforward. The individual choice has been removed regarding our health care choices, I over reacted, I apologize. I am afraid what is happening to us over here in the States will happen to all of us across the globe including your Island. I believe groups of people should not decide what the individual needs are regarding how they live their life and the choices they make. Abuse, greed, ignorance always take over and the system is corrupted, people suffer, and a few will make great profits from our individual and social suffering.

Also there is a great deal of evidence regarding the introduction of suicide education in our Federalized schools, our children learned how suicide is done and why, suicide went up along with the education and introduction of antidepressant medication (which a side effect from this medication is an increased tendency to commit suicide and other kinds of violence, like school shootings). I fear this also will happen with this kind of legislation, those who may have not thought of suicide will now be given an option. Again I am sorry if I hurt feelings by flapping my jaws without thinking.
Form is like a glob of foam; feeling, a bubble; perception, a mirage; fabrications, a banana tree; consciousness, a magic trick this has been taught by the Kinsman of the Sun. Phena Sutta: Foam

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

Postby Ben » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:11 pm

Dear all,
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Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

Postby SarathW » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:48 am

:cry:
"Pain and suffering is not that bad after all!"
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Buddha once explained the entire chain of causes leading to Nibbana:
Ignorance is the proximate cause of mental construction.
Mental construction is the proximate cause of consciousness.
Consciousness is the proximate cause of name-&-form.
Name-&-form is the proximate cause of the 6 senses.
The 6 senses is the proximate cause of contact.
Contact is the proximate cause of feeling.
Feeling is the proximate cause of craving.
Craving is the proximate cause of clinging.
Clinging is the proximate cause of becoming.
Becoming is the proximate cause of birth.
Birth is the proximate cause of ageing, decay and death.
Ageing, decay and death is the proximate cause suffering.
Suffering is the proximate cause of faith.
Faith is the proximate cause of elation.
Elation is the proximate cause of joy.
Joy is the proximate cause of calmness.
Calmness is the proximate cause of happiness.
Happiness is the proximate cause of concentration.
Concentration is the proximate cause of seeing and knowing reality.
Seeing and knowing reality is the proximate cause of disgust.
Disgust is the proximate cause of disillusion.
Disillusion is the proximate cause of mental release.
Mental release is the proximate cause of ending all mental fermentation
linked with ignorance, associated with becoming, and caused by sensing.
Ending all mental fermentation is the proximate cause of Freedom..
Ending all mental fermentation is the proximate cause of Peace..
Ending all mental fermentation is the proximate cause of Bliss..
This - only this - is Nibbana ...

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

Postby greenjuice » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:49 am

Go to the rule 3 here on this page, and there is a somewhat comprehensive explanation of the Tipitaka's view that all euthanasia is wrong:

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... .ch04.html

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

Postby greenjuice » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:37 am

Parajika rule 3 is the same as the first precept, is it not? Also, the Commentary on Pj 3 mentions medical-care and life-support, look on the link.

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

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Re: Voluntary Euthanasia

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