binocular wrote:This really hurts, you know. I would think that someone who has been practicing Buddhism for so long would actually pay attention to what people say. Instead, it's like highschool all over again. It would be funny if it wouldn't be so sad.
thank you for sharing your awareness.
It seems very true in some very important sense.
However, take into consideration that so many people here say so many things that it is not easy to listen to everything.
And some things then are wrongly judged as "unwholesome", because they hurt, and people don't like to hear.
Of course, we have to learn right awareness. But we cannot be all aware of everything at the same time. And here many things are shared which are not always useful for all. And then some person says: I don't like it.
Dan74 wrote:So to be frank, I think you got off lightly. What you were putting forward in that thread I found completely off the mark and inappropriate.
So, to say something like this does not really help. Better to say nothing if one does not know better than by close in "winning". One should close in "acknowledging", and saying sorry maybe if one does not understand. So things get lighter.
The thing is, people here are much drawn into all this, arguing back and forth in their minds, to maybe argument for peace.
So one should give those people peace. Really, they are waiting to share wholesome awareness when the time is right. One should be aware a bit more and let go of one's personal fighting.
Of course, binocular, people should learn that.
So thanks for sharing your awareness.
Let's see how we can take it. Let's try and take it with right acknowledgement and not arguments.
We don't know and understand every perspective. That we must rightly acknowledge.
Of course, binocular, what you have been saying about Burma I think mostly was a good intended to stop senseless gossip and fantasy about what is going on in a culture that most of us don't even know. Although I was mostly not really aware to judge with right knowing. But maybe the arguments were not convincing.
However, never try to "win" by arguments. By arguments one never wins. They only go on and on.
That, you clearly know and see for yourself. So don't be sarcastic. But be aware.
I have not been very aware to judge, but I think this is generally your problem:
Here often people are much about "arguments". Much intellectual talking which even goes off reality into spheres of only fighting for wrong acknowledgement. We are in different realms of perception and we must rightly acknowledge this that we don't know much to share wholesome awareness.
So when you see fighting going on far away, don't take it as "yours". Look around where you are. Maybe there are also good things to do.
But in between hot fighting there is also often very useful dialogue. So it is really better to disengage from what is only too hot. Be patient. Things will be better. Patience is the highest virtue, as the Buddha said. It really cannot exist without virtue, and it is the first and last virtue.
It can happen. We cannot be aware of everything.
Don't be sarcastic about the Buddha's Dhamma, only because people have eaten too much of it and are fighting about it. It's not your problem.
We will learn. Have patience.
We are here to learn and share.