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tiltbillings wrote:
nekete wrote:What does 'stiffy' mean? I have try to translate it with google translator but there is no translation. Is it a slang word?
Erection of the male member. I am so tempted to run through a list of other slang words, but I'll restrain myself, since I would not want offend anyone's delicate sensibilities.
Ok, thank you. An erection. I thought it was something 'sexual' because of the porn you said.

I see now that I have written 'I have try' when I should have written 'I have tried'. Ok, I'm learning, I'm learning.
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Haha this makes for a hilarious english as a second language moment.
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tiltbillings wrote:I would guess that these a couple of rich guys who are doing a temporary ordination for merit, probably for a parent or some such thing.
And as such, their parents arrange means of transportation etc.?
Good point.
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binocular wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:I would guess that these a couple of rich guys who are doing a temporary ordination for merit, probably for a parent or some such thing.
And as such, their parents arrange means of transportation etc.?
Good point.
I believe that one of the monks is Luang Pu Nenkham of Wat Pa Khanti Dhamma
http://en.luangpunenkham.com
Amlo asked to investigate monk
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... m-chattiko
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Mr Man wrote:
binocular wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:I would guess that these a couple of rich guys who are doing a temporary ordination for merit, probably for a parent or some such thing.
And as such, their parents arrange means of transportation etc.?
Good point.
I believe that one of the monks is Luang Pu Nenkham of Wat Pa Khanti Dhamma
http://en.luangpunenkham.com
Amlo asked to investigate monk
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... m-chattiko
Great news. Safety valve in action.
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

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So here we go -- Luang Pu Nenkham and money laundering investigation, he will probably ask for exile in France next:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... laundering
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 09598.html

:broke: :spy:
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Naughty bhikkhus.
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Ah. Monks are people too.
Besides, one bows to the robes representing the Dhamma, not the particular monk.
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binocular wrote:Ah. Monks are people too.
Besides, one bows to the robes representing the Dhamma, not the particular monk.
So we should be critical when they do something inappropriate for their position?
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Mr Man wrote:So we should be critical when they do something inappropriate for their position?
As with all complaints and criticism: one ought to complain to the person who is actually in the position to do something about it.
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Should we be afraid of being critical? What do we do when self governing institutions misbehave or when those with the authority are complicit? Sometimes consensus is useful.
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Mr Man wrote:Should we be afraid of being critical? What do we do when self governing institutions misbehave or when those with the authority are complicit? Sometimes consensus is useful.
Yes. Consensus is absolutely critical in this day and age.
binocular wrote:
Mr Man wrote:So we should be critical when they do something inappropriate for their position?
As with all complaints and criticism: one ought to complain to the person who is actually in the position to do something about it.
(emph. mine)

In the real world situations are not black and white binocular. You cannot apply one solution to fit all problems, it's not a 'one size fits all' world. There are situations that might arise where by you are not able to contact the person who has power to act in in necessary time. There are situations that arise where it is beneficial to spread the word far and wide, such as this current one in Thailand, a country where in order to save face - potential scandal is often swept under the rug without so much as a finger being lifted. What if you were the only one who knew about this and you only took it to the person you thought had the power to act, and he just made the whole thing dissappear, as is commonplace in many S.E. Asian countries.

Life seems to me to be one of those things where you have to take it as it comes. To say: 'I would act this way' or 'We should always do this' betrays an uninformed conception of the way these things work, predicated I would warrant upon a lot of strongly held views as opposed to any real world experience. This viewpoint is all too common in the world, sadly. Especially amongst those who harbour a self-exceptionalism that results in an 'I know best' mentality.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

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Mr Man wrote:Should we be afraid of being critical? What do we do when self governing institutions misbehave or when those with the authority are complicit? Sometimes consensus is useful.
It's not clear what you want from me.

BlackBird wrote:(emph. mine)

In the real world situations are not black and white binocular. You cannot apply one solution to fit all problems, it's not a 'one size fits all' world. There are situations that might arise where by you are not able to contact the person who has power to act in in necessary time. There are situations that arise where it is beneficial to spread the word far and wide, such as this current one in Thailand, a country where in order to save face - potential scandal is often swept under the rug without so much as a finger being lifted. What if you were the only one who knew about this and you only took it to the person you thought had the power to act, and he just made the whole thing dissappear, as is commonplace in many S.E. Asian countries.

Life seems to me to be one of those things where you have to take it as it comes. To say: 'I would act this way' or 'We should always do this' betrays an uninformed conception of the way these things work, predicated I would warrant upon a lot of strongly held views as opposed to any real world experience. This viewpoint is all too common in the world, sadly. Especially amongst those who harbour a self-exceptionalism that results in an 'I know best' mentality.
By all means, public protests, passive aggressiveness, gossip and such work. To some extent.


Oh, and papañca rwles, as always.
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binocular wrote:
Mr Man wrote:Should we be afraid of being critical? What do we do when self governing institutions misbehave or when those with the authority are complicit? Sometimes consensus is useful.
It's not clear what you want from me.
???. I don't want anything from you.
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