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Monks in private jets pass test

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Monks in private jets pass test

Postby plwk » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:02 pm

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The National Office of Buddhism insists monks boarding a private jet, wearing sunglasses and using luxury items is not a serious breach of monastic rules, but it is inappropriate.
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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby daimond » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:15 pm

well, this nothing you would read latter in new like "time magazine" a bhikku carry a gun.

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby manas » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:31 am

Would it be safe to regard the prohibition against riding in a chariot (and thus an aeroplane which is even more opulent) as a 'minor rule' which, while appropriate for the Buddha's time, can now be dispensed with (and is regularly dispensed with by even very strict monks, for the purposes of preaching the Dhamma)?

Having said that, a private jet seems to be unnecessary when there are plenty of public ones available. It doesn't create a good impression, seeing that picture. Maybe the rule needs some refashioning for the 21st Century, along the lines of, 'A Bhikkhu should choose, when possible, a less expensive mode of transportation, if such an option exists; and such travel in a vehicle should have a purpose that is in accord with the Dhamma' (so not only preaching, but visiting a sick parent who is overseas would be in line with Dhamma, one would think). :?:

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:51 am

A picture speaks a thousand words.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby Ben » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:05 am

Yes, Jack, a picture can speak a thousand words.
Hence, it is important to treat any photograph removed from important contexts with due caution.
kind regards,

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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby BlackBird » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:16 am

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby Dan74 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:23 am

To me these monks and the story look pretty suss, but I am not sure about the emphasis on all the corruption here lately. I hope it goes somewhere constructive, because otherwise it's just negativity that fosters corrosive doubt and undermines dedication to practice.
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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby nekete » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:53 am

Different ways of travelling.

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:13 am

I would guess that these a couple of rich guys who are doing a temporary ordination for merit, probably for a parent or some such thing.

When I was in Bangkok in the mid 70's there was a police official who was doing a temporary ordination for merit for his mother. While he was at the vihara he had a collection of porn so that he could have a stiffy every day, as everyone knows if you do not have a stiffy everyday one looses the ability to have a stiffy.

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:20 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby Mr Man » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:20 am

And how about contrived shots of monks meditating in the wilderness or at places of outstanding beauty or attending conferences or touring the pilgrimage sites (or tourist sites). What do we all feel is acceptable?

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby nekete » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:31 am

What does 'stiffy' mean? I have try to translate it with google translator but there is no translation. Is it a slang word?

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Re: Monks in private jets pass test

Postby BlackBird » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:04 pm

Haha this makes for a hilarious english as a second language moment.
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Postby BlackBird » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:25 pm

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -


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