But it is what the Buddha taught. Let's see what's everything, the All.
Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range."SN35.23
Please note: The sutta doesn't say that nothing exists outside of "The All
". It merely states that one cannot explain it. Furthermore, saying "it lies beyond range
" appears to hint that there may be "something".
I think to say the phrase "it lies beyond range" appears to hint that there may be "something" is already to much as well as to say there may be nothing. In my eyes the phrase doesn't tell us anything more than it's impossible to explain anything about what lies beyond range, period.
sabbe dhamma anatta
Not everything has to be included in "dhamma", especially "sabbe dhamma
"'All phenomena are rooted in desire. AN10.58
The word "dhamma" is a complicated one and has to be understood in context. I admit that there are suttas where the word "dhamma" does not contain the unconditioned but there are suttas where "dhamma" includes the unconditioned. See the comment on AN10.58
. Therefore we cannot simply give the word "dhamma" one meaning which has to fit everywhere.
For example when it comes to the 1. verse of the Dhammapada, dhammā is not the translation for "mental states" but the translation for "states". The first sentence is "manopubbaṅgamā dhammā manoseṭṭhā manomayā. I would translate it something like "phenomena (dhammā) are directed by the mind (manopubbaṅgamā), mind precedes (manoseṭṭhā) the mind made (manomayā)" but I'm not a pali expert.
Alex123 wrote:Since Nibbāna, for example, is not rooted in desire and is not mind made - thus sabbe dhamma excludes at least one thing, Nibbāna.
I disagree. Probably we have to agree that we disagree, but your conclusion can only be made if one accepts that "dhamma" in this context means "phenomena rooted in desire" and/or "mind made phenomena" and nothing else. I for my part believe that "dhamma" in sabbe dhammā anattā" means conditioned and unconditioned phenomena. If your interested take a look on that topic here -> viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1581
Understanding the Dhamma as taught compared to a raft, you should let go even of Dhammas, to say nothing of non-Dhammas." MN22
Here again the word "dhamma
" also has limited scope. So "sabbe dhamma anatta
" might not refer to absolutely everything describable and not describable.
Yes indeed another meaning. Here the word "Dhamma" means "teachings", "doctrine" or "truths" but not "phenomena". Usually "Dhamma" with capital letter refers to the teachings or truths not to "phenomena" or "things"
As I said, it is difficult and significance exceedingly depends on context.
I do not claim that my interpretation is the one and only true interpretation. It's just the way I see it.
best wishes, acinteyyo