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Buddha's Rebirths - Possible Paradox

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Indeed, it's all very woo-woo.

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Postby alan » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:44 pm

hgg, I like it that you are thoughtful on these matters. Just like to point out there is never a specific mention of India when the Buddha spoke of his past births. Caste and clan perhaps, but that could be read many ways. Most of the world was divided socially along those lines at his time.

As for the Deva realms, that's probably an extrapolation from high meditative states, and should have no bearing on your belief, or non-belief, in the teachings.

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Must also say that the reciters of the Suttas were not encouraged to comment or add anything. Their purpose was just to remember, and pass it on. Not sure how this idea came about that additions where made at the early stages.

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Tell us about the technology of oral traditions, and what research has proved about the Suttas. I'm confident they were remembered correctly.
Don't use phrases like "Complex and somewhat fluid", or other weasel words.

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