Thanks both, believe me i'm not here to continue arguement, I'm here to get away from arguement, some people have nothing better to do, ever since I joined free sangha I was constantly attacked for talking basic buddhists principles, I'd talk about the 5 precepts, a whole bunch of people would jump on my case to tell me precepts were made to be broken, I tell people the buddha cared about animals and would probably prefer people eat as little meat as possible, they'd tell me vegetarians kill more animals than meat eaters, that a cows life is no more important than a mosquito's. I'd tell them that sobriety is very important if you want to travel further on the path, they'd tell me about some drunk tibetan lama, who had sex with half his disciples, did drugs, that he was an enlightened master, and that enlightened people are beyond having to follow the precepts, the precepts are not really important,
So anyway, just to give you an idea of the sort of arguements I was in, but finally I learned some important lessons about how to repectfully disagree, without waging a full on blazing arguement, Im done with argueing, If I don't get it under control, there's not going to be a forum left that'll have me. So please, moderator staff, et all, if I fail to stay on my new non confrontational approach, and gentle nudge or even a sharp jab to wake me up when I backslide will be appreciated.
But basically I get the idea this is a more traditional, conservative therevada site, just like me, than these very liberal forums like freesangha, and new buddhist, am I wrong about that, from what Im seeing, I don't see flaming, argueing out of control on this site, freesangha doesn't seem to have even two individuals that agree with or like each other, its crazy, talk about a bad example being put forward of what buddhism is and can be.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community that has so generously given me so much, sincerely former monk John