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Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:58 pm

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I wished to share what has been happening for me over the last week or two. I got this infection (bacterial) in which these kinds of blisters broke out on a few places on my body. Also at one stage my right index finger had swelled up like a balloon and had to be lanced and drained. The doctor told me that I must take an antibiotic cream, combined with oral antibiotics, to overcome it all. I took the piece of paper he handed me (prescription) politely, but with years of experience in healing things naturally, I had no intention of following this advice. I just wanted to know what it was, I didn't want his recommended 'fix'.

How I healed it: by giving my own body's natural immune system extra support so that it could be 'firing on all cylinders' as it were, and overcome the infection by itself. And it worked. For me, I tried to really cut down (tried to eliminate, but in the end just managed to cut down) how much tobacco I smoked, because even the organic tobacco I smoke (and in quite small amounts) contains nicotine, which is immuno-supressive. But first and foremost, I went straight to the Plant Kingdom, source of healing for millennia (actually, if we count mammals in general, it's always been where healing can be found). My first 'meal' of the day has been an organic juice of carrots (both for some sweetness and energy) with lots of added green leaves - parsley, kale or any other mineral/vitamin rich blend (NB: freshly pressed, not bottled). So, no solid food as yet. Lunch has been a puree of apples, prunes (for sweetness and their cleansing action), with some cinnamon, clove and ginger for flavour. Once again, high in vitamins and minerals, bursting with life, but easy on the digestion - thus allowing my body to direct more energy towards fighting the infection. Only at the end of the day would I eat a basically healthy 'normal' (in my case, vegan if I am unwell) meal, which kind of 'rewarded' my discipline during the day (I tried to keep this meal moderate, not to overeat and preferably no sugar as refined sugar also lowers immune function somewhat). And a few times a day, I would have a drink of this wonderful Vitamin C powder mixed in to some juice. I've had no trouble at all in overcoming this infection, despite the dire warning of the doctor that "you must take antibiotics to cure this, it's 'systemic". How sad that the mainstream medical profession, although they can be very useful when it comes to diagnosis of things, or if you need an arm or a finger sewn back on etc, nevertheless are so amazingly ignorant when it comes to healing. Everyone was worried for me, and had this kind of inculcated fear that one must follow mainstream medical advice in these situations. Only the naturopath at my health food store and myself had no doubts at all, and knew that with the support of plants, my own immune system could overcome the infection entirely, without the need for any drug.

Antibiotics can save lives in rare instances, I agree. But in general they are either overprescribed, or just unnecessary. When we take antibiotics, they wreak havoc in our intestinal tract, by killing off not only the 'bad' bacterial infection we are trying to eradicate, but also millions and millions of the 'good' bacteria in our gut that are essential for the proper digestion and assimilation of our food. It is actually much harder to replenish the natural balance of these friendly bacteria than some think. One might have to take probiotic supplements to try and redress this imbalance for a long time after antibiotic use has ceased.

I wanted to share this healing journey with all here, because it's actually not the first time I've done this. I've been healing things naturally for many years, and I use plants because they work. Simple. Support your own immune system properly, and it can normally fight off most things. Don't underestimate the self-healing power of your own body, properly cared for and nourished.

metta.

EDIT: Upon reflection, I thought I ought to add, that if one has no knowledge of natural medicine, one would need to be under the guidance of a professional before disregarding medical advice. I'm not suggesting anyone just read what I said above and do the same, if they are inexperienced in this area. I am describing what works for me, but others might need a different approach. Also, when it comes to naturopaths, be sure to check that they are properly qualified and have years of experience (as mine does). Just as not all doctors are of the same quality, neither are all naturopaths. In my own case, I incline towards those who advocate herbal medicine (plants). But not all do so, there are a few different systems out there, and I do not recommend all of them.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby Ben » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:16 am

manas wrote:Antibiotics can save lives in rare instances, I agree


Really?
You should count yourself lucky that you live in a world post 1928.
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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby Dmytro » Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:12 am

Congratulations, Manas!

Thank you for inspiring post.

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Postby tiltbillings » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:08 am

Ben wrote:
manas wrote:Antibiotics can save lives in rare instances, I agree


Really?
You should count yourself lucky that you live in a world post 1928.
kind regards,

Ben
I would like to see the above work with bacterial meningitis or TB.
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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby Justsit » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:29 pm

"...properly cared for and nourished."

???

Additional components of cigarette smoke listed below (does not vary with "organic" tobacco, btw). If you are serious about health, you might want to eliminate sucking in the combustion products of burning leaves.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:19 pm

Justsit wrote:"...properly cared for and nourished."

???

Additional components of cigarette smoke listed below (does not vary with "organic" tobacco, btw). If you are serious about health, you might want to eliminate sucking in the combustion products of burning leaves.



Thanks justsit, but I don't smoke conventional cigs. My stuff is organically grown and processed - they don't add most of that stuff.

But this topic is not about my mild smoking habit - it's about how I healed an infection without antibiotics, using plants only. I know smoking of any kind is not perfect - but, I am not perfect.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby Justsit » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:24 pm

Some of the components in the picture are added to the tobacco, some are the products of combustion, whether the source is "organic" or not. Inhaling the gaseous products of burning leaves, including hydrogen cyanide - not shown in the illustration - is not healthy.

Your efforts to heal without antibiotics are commendable. However, it is impossible to divorce one's "smoking habits" from one's "healthy lifestyle." If your smoking habit is "mild," why not quit? :smile:

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby binocular » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:41 am

manas wrote: it's about how I healed an infection without antibiotics, using plants only.

But maybe it was just karma or some devas who made an end to your infection, and your using plants had nothing to do with it.
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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:41 am

Dmytro wrote:Congratulations, Manas!

Thank you for inspiring post.

Metta, Dmytro


Thanks Dmytro! :anjali:

Yes I had this morning recently when, having been on the healing / cleansing diet for almost a week, I had the veggie juice in the morning as usual and felt like "wow this makes my body sing!". I have healed the infection/s now but I feel so good on this diet that I am doing it again today of my own free will, just for the feelings of inner cleanliness and good health / energy levels it brings.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:01 am

binocular wrote:
manas wrote: it's about how I healed an infection without antibiotics, using plants only.

But maybe it was just karma or some devas who made an end to your infection, and your using plants had nothing to do with it.
:twothumbsup:


Each can believe what they wish. But over years of healing ailments naturally, I've gained a sensitivity to my own body and to what is healing and what is harmful. I do believe the 'devas' helped, but their 'help' was in either initially creating or sustaining this wonderful planet, this amazing biosphere we inhabit which despite all the pollution we keep pumping out into it, still has all the ingredients necessary not just for our survival, but for our healing also. That is what I give my thanks for. The 'help' is Nature, and the knowledge of healing - what we do with that, is then up to us.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:14 am

Justsit wrote:Some of the components in the picture are added to the tobacco, some are the products of combustion, whether the source is "organic" or not. Inhaling the gaseous products of burning leaves, including hydrogen cyanide - not shown in the illustration - is not healthy.

Your efforts to heal without antibiotics are commendable. However, it is impossible to divorce one's "smoking habits" from one's "healthy lifestyle." If your smoking habit is "mild," why not quit? :smile:


An update...

I am cutting back naturally, no willpower needed. I had the green leafy / carrot juice this morning, and felt great as usual. Then I must admit I 'felt like' a smoke (or 'thought' I did), and had just half of one - and immediately felt a subtle drop in wellbeing, a kind of energetic slump which, when I'm on my 'normal' less healthy diet, I don't notice nearly as much. Very interesting.

Anyway I appreciate your reminder. Ultimately, any tobacco smoking, even relatively chemical free stuff, is not something I wish to do for the rest of my life; I always intended it would just be a 'phase' I'm going through. But I don't feel the need to make any strict vows or pledges at present. I sense that right now, just keeping on a much healthier diet, and thus regaining the sensitivity I had many years ago when I used to do a fair bit of juicing / blending of leaves, fruits and veggies, is enough. If I want to feel a pleasant 'rush' I could just have a cup of freshly pressed barley grass - it doesn't taste very nice but man it makes the body feel good and energized. The residual tobacco habit might gradually wither away of it's own accord as I increase my health and wellbeing. I will see how it goes.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby binocular » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:27 am

manas wrote:
binocular wrote:But maybe it was just karma or some devas who made an end to your infection, and your using plants had nothing to do with it.


Each can believe what they wish. But over years of healing ailments naturally, I've gained a sensitivity to my own body and to what is healing and what is harmful. I do believe the 'devas' helped, but their 'help' was in either initially creating or sustaining this wonderful planet, this amazing biosphere we inhabit which despite all the pollution we keep pumping out into it, still has all the ingredients necessary not just for our survival, but for our healing also. That is what I give my thanks for. The 'help' is Nature, and the knowledge of healing - what we do with that, is then up to us.

I used to have chronic rhinitis, for some 25 years. In that time, I've been to many doctors, have taken many prescription and non-prescription medications, tried this and that, nothing really helped. The medications with steroids did help, but they tend to have nasty side-effects and were contraindicated for another condition that I had, so I had to discontinue the treatment with them. (They were prescribed to me by a otorinolarynghologist-specialist, and my GP advised against taking them. My GP, an elderly man, said he has also had chronic rhinitis all his life, and that I was going to have it until I die.) My nose kept running, and was often stuffed at night, so I couldn't sleep, so I was often tired and cranky.
Then one day, in a true over-night manner, the rhinitis ceased. For no apparent reason. By then, I had given up all efforts in trying to heal it. I haven't had it for a couple of years now.

So my point is that sometimes, an illness just ceases, for no immediately apparent reason.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby PeterB » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:40 am

Ben wrote:
manas wrote:Antibiotics can save lives in rare instances, I agree


Really?
You should count yourself lucky that you live in a world post 1928.
kind regards,

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:goodpost: Spot on...we can all afford to be right-on when we know we have a whole range of antibiotics to fall back on when things get really serious.

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Re: Infection healed using plants only - NO antibiotics

Postby manas » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:37 am

PeterB wrote:
Ben wrote:
manas wrote:Antibiotics can save lives in rare instances, I agree


Really?
You should count yourself lucky that you live in a world post 1928.
kind regards,

Ben


:goodpost: Spot on...we can all afford to be right-on when we know we have a whole range of antibiotics to fall back on when things get really serious.


Well, one consequence of the overuse of antibiotics are 'superbugs' resistant to virtually all current antibiotics. Imagine how 'serious' that would be to endure.

I 'count myself lucky' to have had access to knowledge about the healing powers of the human body, aided and empowered by proper nutrition. When things get really serious, I turn to plants - as do millions of other sensible folks around the world. Natural Medicine is bigger than you might believe.

It's best to strengthen one's own immune system, so that it is then able to destroy an infection itself. That is, after all, it's function. Antibiotics are generally over-prescribed, they damage the balance of bacteria in the gut needed for correct digestion, and the immune system learns absolutely nothing if you take them. Like any army, our white blood cells need a challenge now and then, it's good for them.

But I really did not expect much support for my pov. Most folks, even otherwise enlightened Buddhist folks, have been indoctrinated by the medical profession (themselves under the heavy hand of Big Pharma) all their lives, that somehow man-made, synthesized drugs could ever be as beneficial as naturally grown plants. I lost that delusion at about the age of 20.

But we are all entitled to our opinion. I know what works for me. I actually once cured myself of pneumonia naturally, btw. Does that qualify as 'really serious' enough for you, Peter?

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