Some difficulties with understanding "The Grand Finali"

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Some difficulties with understanding "The Grand Finali"

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Hi, anybody who can explain the "middle kind" - is there a name or word for that state of mind

The Grand Finali

Desires are of various levels,
Being the crude, middle, subtle.
All are the snars to trap wordlings
In all of their undertakings.

The crude one i based on matter;
Body, money as its anchor.
All things pleasant to five sense-doors
Are what they want more and more.

The middle kind is satisfied
With happiness that is acquired
Trough mind being peaceful, tranquilled.
It thinks the highest goal's fullfilled.

It shuns making strenuous effort;
Abhors attempt to move forward,
Wallows in self-complacency,
Thinking it's final victory.

What'ver pleases the eyes, ears, nose,
Tounge, touch they regard as foremost.
Other than these they do not care;
Of all else never are they aware.


The subtle is far developed;
Such mind does not prefer to stop,
It can't be naively content,
But looks forward to attainment

Of that Dhamma beyond mundane,-
That which never will wax or wane,
Being the crown of all that's good
Trancending all the magnitudes

Of astronomical brightness,
Being secure, stable, changeless,
Where mundane consepts are absent.
That's what's known as Enlightenment.

Let Buddhists sublimate their desires,
Whit their minds gradually purified
Until they reach the atmosphere
Where gods and men respect, revere

This is the highets benefit
Off'ring the viewpoint ultimate.
It seems so far, yet is so nigh
If we should have the will to try.

Where there's a will, there's a way
But we must first of all display
our faith, courage, resolution
To breasth the air of that Dimension.

In doing good there is the end,
Aspirants attain this point when
They reach the full-final victory
There comes to them the Grand Finali.

Supremely pure and calm are they,
Where Peace unruffled holds sway,
Absolute is their Perfection:
"Tis where aspirants are Enlightened.

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Re: Some difficulties with understanding "The Grand Finali"

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I presume it is referring to absorption (jhāna).

What is the source, then we can check the Pāli?
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Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:I presume it is referring to absorption (jhāna).

What is the source, then we can check the Pāli?
The source; "Forty-five years of the Buddha" - (book one) by; H.H. Somdet Phra Nyanasamvara - chapter 6: "The second, third and fourth rains retreats: At the Veluvana Grove, the city of Rajagaha - The state of Magadha. king Bimbisara

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If you didn't care
What happened to me
And I didn't care for you

We would zig-zag our way
Through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain

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Buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing
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