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Is there any experience of Parinibbana? - Dhamma Wheel

Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

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Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby kmath » Sat May 04, 2013 12:36 am

That is, after an arahant dies, does he/she experience anything?

If so, how does the experience come about?

If not, how is he/she not annihilated?

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby Kare » Sat May 04, 2013 10:19 am

Why this connection between parinibbana and death? In the Pali texts there are several instances of people who say that they are parinibbuta, which means they had experienced parinibbana and were still alive to tell about it.
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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby robertk » Sat May 04, 2013 10:45 am

He means khandha parinibbana - which is often shortened for convenience to 'parinibbana'.

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Sat May 04, 2013 5:48 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby Coyote » Sat May 04, 2013 8:09 pm

"If beings knew, as I know, the results of giving & sharing, they would not eat without having given, nor would the stain of miserliness overcome their minds. Even if it were their last bite, their last mouthful, they would not eat without having shared."
Iti 26

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby reflection » Sat May 04, 2013 10:42 pm

While I agree with Yoghurts comment, from a conventional point of view we can say, yes there is no experience for an arahant after death because there is no consciousness. Quite a peaceful idea to know there is nothing worth holding onto.

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby SarathW » Mon May 06, 2013 12:01 am

Parinibbana is not having an experience. There are no more verbal, bodily or mental fabrications for an Arahant.
It is not possible to understand this by logic, as Nirvana is an unconditioned state.
Even what I am writing here about Nirvana also not correct.
You have to experience it yourself! :juggling: or :meditate:

Please read chapter 39 of the attached:

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/buddh ... gsurw6.pdf
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby kirk5a » Mon May 06, 2013 12:25 am

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Is there any experience of Parinibbana?

Postby kmath » Fri May 10, 2013 7:04 pm

Thanks everyone for your responses.


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