Mindstar wrote:The buddha pointed out very well that we are able to realise nonself through the jhanic meditation experience.
But there is another important point in the buddhist philosophy that i have never heard anyone formulate a question on.
He also said there is no place/reality in the universe where everlasting happiness can be experienced.
As far as i have understood it he had a twofold conclusion on this topic:
1. He has already experinced all levels of reality and couldn`t find one that was not impermanent.
2. Through his statement of how the mind works he excluded that such a place can exist and can ever be created.
Is it also possible to realise both of these statements through the jhanic experience?
Or did he realise these because he was a special beeing with an extraordinary experience of samsara?
jhana means intellect or wisdom. Jhana is a type of Cetasikas that arises at the same time when citta arises, knowing the same temperament as citta, and defunct with citta. Jhana will only arise with the Kusala Citta only and not with non-kusala citta. When a person wanting to be peaceful, the wanting is non-kusala and it is thus Lopa. Jhana can't arise with citta with lopa.
Jhanic meditation cannot help to realize nonself, but Jhanic meditation can only help to stop the passion for a certain period of time depending on how fluent one is. What can really be accumulated to become realized of nonself is Satipattana in daily life. Sati is Cetasika and its role is to commemorate the dhamma condition by reality ( what appears through the eyes, appears through ears, appears through nose, appears through tongue, appears through touch (cold/hot,soft/strong,tense/mild).
From this statement "He also said there is no place/reality in the universe where everlasting happiness can be experienced."
Nothing in the universe, whether it is heaven, above the heaven brahma, hell, earth, jinn, and everything is not for certain and in this case even happiness. The good taste of a nice lunch that we had recently is no longer appearing right now, The good air that touched our body this morning is also no longer existed, The nice word that we used to hear is also no longer existed. Even the seeing before turning the laptop on and even the previous moment is no longer existed. No matter how hard we try to think about the good taste of the food that we had and it can't be as real as it should be because it has already passed. Dhamma is everything real, and everything real arises, stays there for a while, and defunct in the end. There's no coming back and that's the meaning of "there is no place/reality in the universe where everlasting happiness can be experienced" that Buddha had enlightened.