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Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

Postby BlackBird » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:49 am

I believe in the cosmology that the Buddha taught in the Suttas, thus I believe in Brahma, devas, ghosts and hell beings.
It won't stop you meditating, or practicing the Buddha's teachings if you don't believe in them. But I believe at a certain point you have to take the Buddha at his word, and surrender your own views in favour of those of the Buddha, realizing that one is ignorant of the truth, and the Buddha has known and seen. Until one is ready to submit that they are blind and ignorant - one can only progress so far. Rebirth is intricately tied to the teachings. If rebirth does not exist then one need only meditate enough to prevent the grosser manifestations of dukkha, and wait until death comes. In such a view death brings nibbana. This is a wrong view, in the Buddha's teachings. Buddhism doesn't make much sense without rebirth.

That is my view, and it appears to be right to me, but I cannot say anything for sure.
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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

Postby Mindstar » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm


Higher than lordship over all earth,
Higher than sojourning in heavens supreme,
Higher than empire over all the worlds,
Is Fruit of Entrance to the Dhamma Stream.
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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

Postby Digity » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:22 pm

If the Buddha taught these things then I do take him for his word. So, in that sense I do believe in these forms of beings. However, I just leave it at that. I don't pray to the devas or anything of that nature.

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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

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Re: Ghosts, devas, and brahmās?

Postby Alex123 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:23 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."


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