James the Giant wrote:This debate reminds me of the Devadatta schism...
For me, the great value of this event is it the embodient of Buddhist history & change. Here, there is to be learned about history:
(1) An inpiring monk, presumed by many to be an arahnt, that has departed from the teachings of his teacher, also presumed to be an arahant by many. This shows how quickly different schools of Buddhism can arise & become recognised by the world. This is the first lesson to be learned, here.
(2) A group of Buddhists, this internet site, who must rely a few scholars for their trust, such as Brahm, Brahmali, Bodhi & Thanissaro. This shows how few individuals influence the dissemination & intepretative doctrine of Buddhism. This is the second lesson to be learned, here.
(3) A bhikkhuni order that is struggling to support itself. This shows how easily the bhikkhuni orders became extinct due to a lack of support from the laity. The laity want heros. They will support heroic figures. This is the third lesson to be learned, here.
(4) The resistence of Buddha to admit bhikkhuinis, who are mostly unable to live as bhikkhus, i.e., to roam around without a care. Instead, they must live in compounds and the leader monks must behave like husbands to be their breadwinner. This is the fourth lesson to be learned, here.
History can be comprehended by what is occuring in the present.