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Ajahn Brahm for sale?

Postby hermitwin » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:02 pm

This is quite funny n creative. But i dont know how
the conservatives will react.

http://ajahnbrahmforsale.com/
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Postby SamKR » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:14 pm

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Postby greggorious » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:46 pm

Conservative types are usually more dogmatic. To me Buddhism is a liberal religion and should be open to many interpretations, even within one specific tradition. Ajahn Brahm often goes against the grain, and personally I think that's why loads of people love him, because he is unorthodox.
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Postby daverupa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:47 pm

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    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
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Postby plwk » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:07 pm

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What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
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Postby alan » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:13 pm

Maybe we'll get lucky and get to hear a long, pointless, rambling joke!
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Postby Mr Man » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:33 pm

Well I wouldn't see myself as conservative but I don't see it as funny or appropriate but there you go.
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Postby polarbuddha101 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:44 pm

I think the Buddha would disapprove.
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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Postby greggorious » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:05 pm

Didn't the Buddha have a sense of humor PolarBuddha?
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah
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Postby polarbuddha101 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:10 pm

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"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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Postby greggorious » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:23 pm

I doubt it's "Prostituting his time" when it comes to a good cause. Ajahn Brahm strives for equality and will take whatever measures necessary. If that would have pissed off the Buddha, I don't think he'd mind. The Budha didn't even want to teach women and had to be convinced by Ananda to do so. There's still a heirachy in Thai Buddhism now, men are seen as superior but People like Ajahn brahm want to change this.
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah
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Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:31 pm

Is there any evidence that its not just a spoof or a scam?

Buddhists should be trying to conserve the Buddha's genuine teachings, so “conservative” or “orthodox” are not dirty words in the Buddha's teaching.

The Venerable Mahākassapa convened the First Buddhist Council to conserve the Dhamma/Vinaya for future generations after the Buddha's demise.
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Postby marc108 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:39 pm

lol I think its funny. Ajahn Brahm is great and what he's doing for the Bhikkhuni's is great as well. Of course other people are going to try to project their perceptions of what they think a Bhikkhu should or should not be doing... but really, who are we to tell Ajahn Brahm anything lol.
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Postby greggorious » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:46 pm

I couldn't agree more Marc
"The original heart/mind shines like pure, clear water with the sweetest taste. But if the heart is pure, is our practice over? No, we must not cling even to this purity. We must go beyond all duality, all concepts, all bad, all good, all pure, all impure. We must go beyond self and nonself, beyond birth and death. When we see with the eye of wisdom, we know that the true Buddha is timeless, unborn, unrelated to any body, any history, any image. Buddha is the ground of all being, the realization of the truth of the unmoving mind.” Ajahn Chah
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Postby Cittasanto » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:56 pm

it is extremely inappropriate for a mendicant to do such a thing. they are not commodities for sale. People should give not because they get something, but because they find wherever it is inspiring.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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Postby Mr Man » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:12 pm

marc108 wrote:lol I think its funny.
I honestly cannot see how it is funny. Funny for me is Tommy Cooper
marc108 wrote:Ajahn Brahm is great and what he's doing for the Bhikkhuni's is great as well.
Might be great but in my opinion it is not relivent here.
marc108 wrote:Of course other people are going to try to project their perceptions of what they think a Bhikkhu should or should not be doing...
I don't think it is a case of projecting perceptions.
marc108 wrote:but really, who are we to tell Ajahn Brahm anything lol.
Why not?
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Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:15 pm

I visited the Dhammasara Nun's site, but I could find no evidence for this alleged sale of Ajahn Brahma's time.

Apparently, it is for real. I found this page on Dhammaloka.org
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Postby Cittasanto » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:24 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:I visited the Dhammasara Nun's site, but I could find no evidence for this alleged sale of Ajahn Brahma's time.

Apparently, it is for real. I found this page on Dhammaloka.org

I couldn't find anything. and am surprised it isn't on the Dhammasala page!
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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Postby Stephen K » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:30 pm

Ajahn Brahm mentioned this in his last talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU2oKq8X_po
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Postby Cittasanto » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Hi Mr Man,
I agree with the rest but would like to add to what you add to your responce to marc108 if you do not mind.
Mr Man wrote:
marc108 wrote:Of course other people are going to try to project their perceptions of what they think a Bhikkhu should or should not be doing...

I don't think it is a case of projecting perceptions.

If a judge, politician, or police officer acted inappropriately for their position and specific duties is it projection for the lay public who are not 100% aware of their rules to critisise?

Mr Man wrote:
marc108 wrote:but really, who are we to tell Ajahn Brahm anything lol.

Why not?

the Laity often are the cause of vinaya rules, and on occasion advised on certain aspects (such as the theft parajika rule) who the hell were they to tell the Buddha anything?
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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