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Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Goob » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:54 am

Hello,

I'm interested in investigating the teachings of some western teachers in the Thai Forest Tradition that didn't train under Ajahn Chah or belong to his monasteries. Not that I have anything against these particular teachers, quite the opposite, it's just that I'm interested in the various modern perspectives. I know Thanissaro Bhikkhu is a given, but do you fine people have any other interesting suggestions?

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby perkele » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:37 pm

I like this very much: , collected talks by Ajahn Paññavaddho (disciple of Ajahn Maha Bua)
The audio quality is not very good, from back in the old days when they used tapes. But there are pdf transcriptions.

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Goob » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:08 pm

Ah yes, I remember reading those A while back and remember them to be very good. Thanks!

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:08 pm

There is Ajahn Sukhacitto, who resides at Amaravati, and although there isn't a disciple of Ajahn Chah, and although coming from Ajahn Buddhadāsa has his own distinct style. the few teaching he gave while I was there were really good, but I do not know if they are available on the Amaravati site as there has been changes since my time.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Goob » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:38 pm

Thanks Bhante (and others)! That's very interesting.
Any thoughts on why there are so few western disciples setting themselves up as teachers, or why so many have disrobed for that matter?

I have heard news of a new Dhammayut Monastery presently being built in rural Virginia, USA, isn't Ajahn Dick Silaratano the abbot there?

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Monkey Mind » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:33 pm

"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Monkey Mind » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:13 pm

http://birken.ca/about/monastics

Ajahn Sona trained under Gunaratana's tradition in addition to Chah lineage.
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:08 pm

Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta


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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby marc108 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:52 pm

Ajahn Sujato. While he did train at some of the Ajahn Chah related monasteries, I dont believe he ever met Ajahn Chah, and I would consider him very much an 'independent'.
"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby Clarence » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:09 pm

Venerable,

If I may ask, but what is your tradition? Do you consider yourself a forest tradition monk or do you have a different background?

Thanks,

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

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Re: Western Teachers of the Thai Forest Tradition

Postby cooran » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:00 am

Maybe have a look at : http://forestsangha.org/

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