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Re: Jogging

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Hi!
Im jogging for a while now and can tell you that this is one of most wonderful thing I ever do ;) Sadly its really hard to start running without any help, I was running out of motivation at the beginning. I help myself with runners applications on smartphones. I try some of them and can said that they can give a lot of fun. Now im running with streetquest and I can easily recommend it, you have achievements and quests there which make running really entertaining :)
Peace and keep running.
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1. Walk slowly for 1 minute after every 10 minutes of Running. It brings down your heartbeatrate and gives your body the chance to have more time running with a lower heartbeatrate - which is great for building up stamina according to my jogging book. (I do so, too and I guess it works. It makes jogging more enjoyable, too, because you can see how far you get until the next "minibreak")
2. Don't eat anything two hours before you start jogging. When the body is really busy with processing food, it's not the best time to go jogging.
3. If you enjoy running for a while, consider also taking an mp3 player (music or dhammatalks or audio books) with you. There are also heartbeat-monitors which count stuff like average heartbeatrate in a session, burned kcal, burned kcal total (since you started running).. depending on who you ask, people tell it's better to run with an average heartbeatrate. I guess the body is less likely to get injured when one doesn't put 120% energy into running. However, it's nice to have some of those little statistics with the heartbeatmonitor to be able to see how long the session was. And if you get to the point that you notice you have burned 2.000, 5.000, 10.000 or 40.000kcal by jogging since you started - well that is an awesome motivator, too.

Ben wrote:I don't recommend jogging - the health benefits aren't worth the damage running does to one's body.
I can't run anymore as a result of damage to my knees.
One should get running shoes and probably insoles if the knees or other parts of the legs hurt after and during training. People develop wrong leg and feet postures all throughout their life, not just from running.

Personally, after I got an injure from too much jogging, too, i'm now shifting to just 20 minutes every 2 days with the option to go jogging for up to 30minutes every 2 days when I feel that 20 minutes isn't cutting it anymore.
The likelihood to get an injure is of course connected with knowing or not knowing the limits of the body. That's why I hesitate to recommend walking 5-6 times a week or more than 25 km peer week (the exact amount surely depends on one's personal condition). And that's how at least I got my injury :roll:

Best wishes,
Alobha

PS: Try orchestral music while running like "Two steps from Hell" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Y_qI-1 ... re=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). It's both hilarious and epic to go joggin with this music!
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That's cool Retro.
Knees and back won't allow me to jog but I would othwerwise. I try and rotate power walking, spinning, basketball, hiking and the elliptical (community gyms here are cheap and outdoors georgious when it's not raining--and even when it is). Helps keep the qi/energy/circulation throughout the legs, feet, butt and hips. Also keeps the monotony down. I'm with you on swimming: very time consuming and chlorine's icky (toxic IMO). The pain relief consistent aerobics bring me far outweighs the temporary pains I have to endure and keeps my overall pain levels down about half of what they were when I was too sedentary/not aerobic enough.
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Greetings,

I just wanted to touch base to let you know I'm still jogging, and in fact have signed up for my first ever fun run later this month. It's a local one, and I'm doing the full 10km.

(As an aside, I've also started cycling now that I have a bike)

Metta,
Retro. :)
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I used to love running until I injured my knees. Running is wonderful cardiovascular exercise but very hard on the joints. Be mindful of your body, do plenty of correct stretching, run on forgiving surfaces (packed even dirt is ideal), increase your intensity and distance very slowly. I wish I'd been more heedful; I could perhaps still be running today.

Enjoy!

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Easy to get addicted. Watch out. :sage:
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ground wrote:Easy to get addicted. Watch out.
Maybe it would be better to watch in.
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Greetings,

Addicted to what exactly...?

:sage:

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retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Addicted to what exactly...?
Endorphins would be the common answer, but most likely it would be the anandamides.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

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Greetings,

OK, thanks... I don't know that I even get those, so not much to be addicted to there. :ugeek:

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retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

OK, thanks... I don't know that I even get those, so not much to be addicted to there. :ugeek:

Metta,
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Do you get a bit of a buzz or blissed-out feeling after a good run?
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“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
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retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,

Addicted to what exactly...?
Maybe what tilt said, but probably more than that (general metabolism change?). I had to stop due to knee issues and it caused me kind of a "cold turkey" ... terrible. Of course individual inclinations may have impact. Don't know.
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also I experienced a tendency that jogging and its effects actually undermined meditative practices. Possibly due to the bodily effects on mental processes. Mental meditative capacity tended to decrease with increasing jogging activity. So one may have to find one's middle way in this area too, the welcomed psycho-physiological effects however may counter this midddle way which may be interpreted as "addiction". :sage:
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Greetings,
tiltbillings wrote:Do you get a bit of a buzz or blissed-out feeling after a good run?
Not really... but here's what I do like about it...

I enjoy getting out there in the open weather, and I enjoy the loka of it... much like how you might enjoy a vacation because it's a break from the routine of daily tasks and activities that you habitually engage with when you're at home or at work. The 'triggers' for those tasks are removed when I'm not physically there. It's a different experience. It serves as bookends to segment daily experience.

It's taking the mind into a place where it can relax, where it's permitted to be disconnected from any engagement with society, and where its goals can be freeform and unrestrained, where the mind's work is on monitoring biomechanical matters, rather than analytical or social matters. I come back feeling I've actually done something worthwhile. Unlike ground, I actually find the act of jogging a form of meditation in itself, moreso than something that interferes with it.

There's a sense of freedom that I can go where I like, and I'm not dependent on anyone else, nor do I have any obligations to anyone else. I enjoy getting in the rhythm and the constancy of it and that I when I find the rhythm, I don't really seem to get weary for at least the first 10km. It's the sense that I can actually go somewhere, just me and myself, without reliance on motors, petrol, trains or buses. It's a physical manifestation of the potential simplicity of life. It's harmless. It breaks down perceptions of what is close, and what is far - what is possible, and what is not possible. Just the fact that I'm physically moving offsets the habitual tendency towards inertia and inaction - it's a "why not?" rather than a "why?".

I enjoy the speed, in that it's slow enough to see what's going on, but also fast enough that the scenery moves progressively along. I like that depending on which way I go I can see anything from rural farm scenes, to suburbia, to rivers, to coastlines, and different unexpected encounters with flora and fauna. I like that it feels 'real' (as opposed to looking through the windows of a car), organic, I've got the air in my face, and that if I start at home, explore, and then come back home, there's almost a certain primitive 'tribal' satisfaction with that journey. I can get answers to essentially pointless questions, like "what's over that hill?", "what's around that corner?". I can go somewhere for no reason other than simply to go there.

If I'm wearing my MP3 player, I also enjoy listening to tunes in combination with the above factors.

I enjoy the sense of comeraderie with other people out doing physical exercise, approaching from the opposite direction - walking, jogging, cycling or whatever - there's a quick nod, or a hi - but no subsequent obligation to engage in conversation because they've already come and gone.

If that constitutes endorphins, anandamides or metabolic change, then maybe it is... I don't know... but it doesn't feel like a "buzz" per se ~ it feels to me more like freedom, challenge and achievement. It certainly doesn't feel like anything I should be afraid of being addicted to. It feels liberating. Actually, it's probably why Forrest Gump ran across America. :lol:

I don't run if I have any joint soreness, at which point I would ride instead, where many of the same factors I noted above would still apply.

Metta,
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I was totally addicted to the "high" from running and still experience "cravings" and "withdrawals."
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