Can monks really take care of their health?

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Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby barcsimalsi » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:19 am

Monks and Nuns depend on lay people for food. How can they choose what food is really good for their health? What's the use of health insurance and medication if the monks kept getting sick again and again because of unsuitable daily nutriment. We need a healthy body to support our practice.

I acknowledge somewhere in the sutta that hints monkhood is not fit for the weak but even the strong and healthy are subject to impermanent.

The great Ajahn Chah suffered almost 10 years of severe diabetes before his death and i had met many monks who suffered various sickness for long periods which thoroughly cast negative impact on their daily practice. Not everyone has a divinehealth like .

Appreciate anyone who has ordination experience to share their thoughts.

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:53 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby appicchato » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:24 am

A monk who's into his practice takes what comes and lets go what goes...it don't matter...

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:47 am

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby robertk » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:27 am

Bhikkhus are the great disciple heroes of the sasana and will endure all types of illness without concern beyond taking whatever medicine is available.
In Sri lanka there was a famine some 500 years after the Buddha's parinibanna and many bhikkhu died of hunger as the laypeople stopped offering enough food. The Bhikhhus would not break their vows and store food that was not offered as this was against the vinaya.

So bhikkhus don't worry about such mundane things as possible future ill health, they are given over to the Dhamma now.

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby Ben » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:32 am

My understanding is that there are large state financed monks hospitals in both Bangkok and Yangon.
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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby cooran » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:49 am

Hello Ben,

My understanding is that there are a few hospitals especially for Monks and separately for Nuns. Sometimes the Burmese sangha are transferred to Thailand - but this is costly to the Burmese state.

A few sites:
Bangkok Priest Hospital
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrKex56nJgA

Priest Hospital is located in Ratchathewi district of Bangkok on Si Ayutthaya Road. This hospital was established in 1949 as a hospital specifically set up to care for ailing Buddhist monks and novices. Up to this day, the hospital still cares for monks, as well as conducting medical research and providing a support system for medical care of the monastic order throughout Thailand.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/lifestyle/he ... ital/5905/

Yangon’s Jivitadana Sangha Hospital
http://www.mmtimes.com/2012/news/621/news62110.html

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby James the Giant » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:05 am

There was a western monk a few decades ago in the far north (north-west? Burmese border area?) of Thailand who went blind because the local people didn't know and didn't care to ask what he needed to eat. So they just gave him either white rice, or just instant noodles. I can't remember which.
So he gradually suffered from all sorts of nutritional deficiencies and finally went blind!
A supporter from another part of the country came to visit him one day and was appalled at what he was eating.
So the supporter told the village people to give healthy things, not just white rice. Fortunately the monk regained his eyesight.
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Can monks really take care of their health?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:22 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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