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Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

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Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby plwk » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:49 pm

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A campaign to eradicate New Zealand’s cats as a way of protecting native wildlife has raised the hackles of pet lovers, with critics leaping to the defence of their feline friends. Gareth Morgan, a businessman turned philanthropist, has called for New Zealanders to give puss the boot, citing research showing the average cat kills at least 13 native birds or animals each year. More

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby Sam Vara » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:00 pm

Don't worry - I'll take them all.

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby m0rl0ck » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:02 pm

Unless they can prove that humans are less damaging to native wildlife, i say ban the humans.
“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:41 pm

It's certainly true that the Maori and European immigrants were rather effective at burning and cutting down most of the forests...

Unfortunately, the Europeans went even further, introducing possums (from Australia), deer, cats, dogs, rabbits, ferrets, stoats (the latter two to try to deal with the rabbits, I believe). Not to mention sheep, cows, thar, various small birds. Oh, and bees for pollination of crops...

Did I miss anything?

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Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:30 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby Ben » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:27 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Postby manas » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:39 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby Ben » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:08 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby yawares » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:26 pm

Dear All,

Never in a million years!! Get rid of them cute cats???...NO NO NO CAN DO :jumping:

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I love cats :heart: ..even they all ran away from me when they were older...they stayed only when they were young :tongue: ...didn't know why they ran away????
yawares :heart:

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:49 am

http://news.yahoo.com/staggering-stats- ... 39117.html

Cats being cute:

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Best never to let them outside

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Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby yawares » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:10 pm

Dear Tiltbillings,

Thanks for the pictures...now I know why my cats ran away..they didn't like my foods! They preferred flying/running foods!!

MAY BE THEY PREFERRED " FREEDOM/TRAVEL "...all my cats loved to go walking on the roof/climbed the trees or walking along the fence.

Dear Graham,

You should apply insecticides in and around your home .

Nothing run in my house/in my closets,
yawares

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Postby yawares » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:21 pm

Dear Tiltbillings,

I never let my cats out...Mixy(my cat in Bangkok) ran out when I opened the door(coming back from school).

Pickle(my green/yellow cat in Columbus,Ohio) ran away while we were moving to Texas A&m, after driving for a long time, we stopped at a rest area to rest/walk around...Pickle just ran away...we waited for him to come back for an hour...but no... he was gone for good...I cried because I loved him since the day he was born..his mother,a stray cat, pregnanted and gave birth to 5 supercute kittens at my front porch on the rug..I moved them inside my house...my Thai/American friends adopted 4 kittens...my daughter kept 1 and named him 'Pickle'...

They ran out many times but always came back...when they were older they were gone..no coming back.

Yawares :jumping:

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Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby cooran » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:58 am

Thank you Graham.

The very first Precept reads:
1. I undertake the training rule to abstain from taking life.
Pāṇātipātā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.
This includes all life, not just human life.

Here is a sample of the hundreds of sites which explain how to catch and release, or just repel, what humans regards as pests - without breaking the First Precept.

Category:Insect repellents
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Insect repellents (or uncommonly insectifuges) repel insects but do not kill them. Therefore, they are not technically insecticides nor technically pesticides. This category contains articles on insect repellents that are not insecticides, meaning that their main purpose/function is not to kill but to repel. Articles here may relate to chemical, physical or biological barriers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Insect_repellents

Compassionate garden pest control - no kill gardening
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002903284

Non-lethal methods of rat control
http://www.ehow.com/way_5542345_nonleth ... ntrol.html

I remember lots of field mice coming into my house. I bought a Mouse House, a non-harming trap, and mice food and caught four or five. I kept them in the Mouse House for a few weeks, and then released them next to a creek in the bush after digging a safe nest for them.

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Chris
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Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

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Re: Fur flies over call to rid New Zealand of cats

Postby yawares » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:11 am

Dear Members,

Please let me show you all these rare cats:

Sand cat
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Norwegian forest cat
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Chimera cat
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Toy cat
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Seriously...who can get rid of something this cute??? :heart:
yawares :heart:


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