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AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking - Dhamma Wheel

AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

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AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:25 pm

AN 5.29 PTS: A iii 29
Cankama Sutta: Walking
translated from the Pali by Aggacitta Bhikkhu & Kumara Bhikkhu


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .agku.html



Monks, there are these five benefits of walking up & down.[1] What five?

One is fit for long journeys; one is fit for striving; one has little disease; that which is eaten, drunk, chewed, tasted, goes through proper digestion; the composure attained by walking up & down is long-lasting.

These, monks, are the five benefits of walking up & down.

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1. Cankama: Walking meditation, usually in the form of walking back and forth along a prescribed path. [— jtb]

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:26 pm

AN 5.29 PTS: A iii 29
Cankama Sutta: Walking
translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

These are the five rewards for one who practices walking meditation. Which five?

He can endure traveling by foot; he can endure exertion; he becomes free from disease; whatever he has eaten & drunk, chewed & savored, becomes well-digested; the concentration he wins while doing walking meditation lasts for a long time.

These are the five rewards for one who practices walking meditation.

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

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AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta
Translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi


“Bhikkhus, there are these five benefits of walking meditation. What five? One becomes capable of journeys; one becomes capable of striving; one becomes healthy; what one has eaten, drunk, consumed, and tasted is properly digested; the concentration attained through walking meditation is long lasting.[998] These are the five benefits of walking meditation.

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[998] Cīraṭṭhitiko hoti. Mp: “If one has acquired the mark [of concentration] while standing up, it is lost when one sits down. If one has acquired the mark while sitting, it is lost when one lies down. But for one who has resolved on walking up and down and acquired the mark in a moving object, it is not lost even when one stands still, sits down, and lies down.

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby Sam Vara » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:14 pm

Hi Mike, and welcome back. Did you say you had been on retreat? If so, I hope you had a beneficial time. I wonder if it influenced your choice of Sutta...

I like the point about the concentration being "long-lasting", which is followed up in the note. There certainly does seem to be something about walking meditation which functions as a sort of bridge between the Dhamma-hall and everyday life. It might be that the mindfulness is stronger, or it might be that it is just of a type to cope with stuff moving around all over the place.

There are in the Suttas lots of recommendations of practices on the grounds that they protect health and well-being, as well as serving a higher purpose. Eating once a day is another one. My experience is that they rarely, for lay practitioners, deliver what we might expect them to. Solvitur ambulans, anyway.

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:45 pm

Thanks for the message, and the Latin lesson, Sam:


Indeed, I did a lot of walking on retreat, and my experience that the samādhi generated by walking meditation is long lasting and robust matches the sutta (and commentary) because one is able to focus on a variety of "moving objects".

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:54 am

Greetings,

Does "cankama" really mean "walking meditation" or are various translators taking certain liberties here...?

I sense they may be bending something quite straight-forward and literal as "walking" to conform to their own "meditation"-centric views on the Dhamma.

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:23 pm

Since the point of the suttas is to inform practice, does anyone have further comments on their experience of the relative stability of concentration developed when walking rather than sitting?

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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby gavesako » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:09 am

“Bhikkhus, you should train thus: ’We will be devoted to wakefulness; by walking and sitting meditation during the day, … night, we will purify our minds of obstructive states.’”
(MN 39.10)

I left my dwelling overcome by sleepiness. Going onto the walking path, I fell down on the earth.
Having rubbed my limbs and having gone onto the walking-meditation path again, I did walking meditation and became well composed in mind.
Then wise attention arose in me, the danger in existence became clear, disenchantment was established, and my mind was released.
(Bhagu Thera, Theragatha 271–273)



I am personally very fond of walking meditation which is emphasised a lot in the Thai forest tradition. In the West for some reason (probably influence of Goenka and Mahasi style retreats) the emphasis is always on "sitting" and walking is seen more like stretching the legs. This is reflected in the typical retreat schedules which start with a period of sitting very early in the afternoon, after the main meal of the day. People have no time to digest the food and are often sleepy during this time (1-3 pm). It would be more in keeping with the Buddha's instructions if more importance was given to walking meditation in the West.

Here is a good article by Ajahn Nyanadhammo explaining this point:

Three Expositions on Walking Meditation
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh464-p.html
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Re: AN 5.29: Cankama Sutta — Walking

Postby mikenz66 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:25 pm

Thanks for the references, Bhante. The article by Ajahn Nyanadhammo:
Three Expositions on Walking Meditation
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh464-p.html
has a number of excellent sutta references.

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