ground wrote:if - and only if - "labels in the mind" can be separated from "thinking" and separated from "objectifies" and if further "feeling" can be separated from "labels in the mind" and "thinking" and "objectifies" Dmytro may be compliant with Theravada exegesis but not be compliant with the 2nd of the suttas quoted above:
In other words, you know naught of what you speak. The suttas you quoted do not support your position. What it looks like is that you really do not have a clue as to what papañca means and how it used in the suttas. Also, the "if - and only if" sentence shows you do not really know how the suttas talk about these things. I can suggest some reading for you to do so that you can get up to speed on these things rather than simply flailing about. It would make for a far better discussion.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80
Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.
dheamhan a fhios agam
Damned if I know.