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I'm becoming more and more godless with age

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby m0rl0ck » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:32 pm

“The truth knocks on the door and you say, "Go away, I'm looking for the truth," and so it goes away. Puzzling.” ― Robert M. Pirsig

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:11 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:07 pm

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:10 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:31 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:58 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:08 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:22 am

If you don't read the labels or learn what and why you need to take certain medicine, then you can take the wrong one and make your illness worse.

It is better to take your time, study your illness and then take the right medicine. Otherwise if you keep taking wrong medicine again and again... It can make your illness worse.
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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:23 am

Oh yes. Somehow also a believe, isn't it?
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:25 am

It has to be reasoned belief. Otherwise person can indiscriminately believe in Zeus, Jesus, some sea-monster that needs worshiping, or whatever.
"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:33 am

So what in this (your) case is the reason(ing) your are refering to? The 5,000km fish? Dangerous, very dangerous.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Alex123 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:36 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:41 am

So what discernment can your use as reasoning to reject faith in what you do not know jet?
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby Hanzze » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:27 am

Maybe you like to give it a read:
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby DAWN » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:27 am

It's better to have faith rather doubt.

Faith is the love. Faith brings knowledge
Doubt is the fear. Doubt brings suffering
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

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Re: I'm becoming more and more godless with age

Postby manas » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:55 am

Hi all,

I wanted to thank everyone who replied for their input, before requesting that this topic be locked so it can slide peacefully into the abyss of old posts. It encapsulated a mood I had at the time, which passed, but I enjoyed the resulting conversation and did not want to terminate the topic until this had run it's course.

My current feeling is that how I phrased things was open to misinterpretation, maybe. If 'godless' means I do not believe in a divine, white-haired father figure who dispenses harsh but (according to his sense of justice) fair punishments and rewards to his 'chosen' or otherwise, then yep godless in that sense I am. But that does not mean I am not quite open to there being other realms and dimensions that we can only dream of, actully existing beyond our current senses' ability to perceive. So maybe 'godless' is too negative a term, but it worked for me at the time.

Let's remember that although Buddhism does not claim any 'one, ultimate, supreme god who should be worshipped by all', that it does admit to the existence of millions of other beings in dimensions higher than this one. Not that we should worship demigods, no; but we should also remember how they got there: by the power of good actions. So I did not mean any disrespect to those gods by this topic. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding.

Ok gods or no gods, back to the practice!

:namaste:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."


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