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Early Buddhism resources

Textual analysis and comparative discussion on early Buddhist sects and texts.
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby piotr » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:08 am

Hi Sylvester,

I don't know the author personally, so I can't really tell. As for the quote it seems to me that in his discussion of Poṭṭhapāda-sutta Polak equals ‘cetayati’ with ‘vitakketi’. I'm in the middle of his book, and I haven't read his discussion of ‘vitakka’ and ‘vicāra’ yet, so I can't really tell why he presumably equals those terms.
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby Sylvester » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:30 am

Hi dave.

That is an tenable argument. We could however adopt another textual criticism device to explain the presence of the arupa pericopes. They were simply inserted inadvertently during the course of "redaction". Ven Analayo identifies (in his Comparative Study of the MN) quite a number of doctrinally ill-fitting pericopes, but shows how easily a reciter could have mistakenly inserted into a sutta, due to the preceding sequence of words.

I think more needs to be done to study this popular conception of "lateness" of a sutta. It's far too vague a concept right now to be of genuine utility. Eg, the insertion of the arupa pericopes only demonstrates that a text suffered an incorrect addition sometime "late", but it says nothing about the original text. Excise the arupa pericope, and we're still left with the issue - is the root-text "late"?

Another example is the oft-cited observation that texts with long compounds are "late". I would not disagree that compounding is a feature of late Pali, but it simply shows that single words were strung together at a late point in the text's history. It does not say anything about when these single words first came to be recorded, and it certainly is not proof that the concepts/connotations of a text were first set down in compounds instead of single words.

Yet another example is the fact that the Pali Canon shows heavy Sanskritisation, and this is taken as proof of lateness. Norman argues that the fact that the Commentaries can actually preserve the Prakrit roots and meanings of the Sanskritised Pali indicates that the textual tradition goes much further back in time than the Sanskrit period. Sanskritisation, is at best, evidence that the morphology of Pali closed late, but it says nothing about the age of the concepts.

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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby daverupa » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:49 am

"un"tenable, I'm sure you meant. Thank you for the depth of coverage, here.

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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby ancientbuddhism » Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:43 am

by Richard Salomon

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Re: Early Buddhism resources

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by Marcus Bingenheimer.

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, by Paul Hacker
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

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, by Johannes Bronkhorst
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

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By Edward Fitzpatrick Crangle

Studies in Oriental Religions, Vol. 29 (1994)
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

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, Tilmann Vetter
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby ancientbuddhism » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:50 pm

, by K.R. Norman
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Re: Early Buddhism resources

Postby daverupa » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:07 am

, by S. N. Dube.

On the doctrinal controversies reflected in the Kathavatthu.

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On a meta- note, I wonder if this is a repeat, as it's an old book... perhaps some indexing here would help? I'll get to it later, perhaps, time permitting.

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