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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby jason c » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:24 pm

Cittasanto wrote:
jason c wrote:hey cittasanto can you clarify your last statement?

Yes, care about how you act now, be one thing, and true to it.

yes, be present NOW, pay attention to NOW, this is what the buddha taught and meditation is practice to cultivate this.

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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby hanzze_ » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:01 am

That's just another runaway. Jason, be patient with you and take care of your responsibilities first but when ever your responsibilities are gone (or realized as excuse and not real responsibilities but just greed) be careful to take no more other. We love responsibilities to give us a reason for struggling on.

A maybe good story:

Practice for the Householder

You have often asked about the path of the householder. Household life is both hard and easy hard to do, easy to understand. It is as if you were to come complaining to me with a red-hot coal in your hand, and I were to tell you to simply drop it. "No, I won't," you say. "I want it to be cold." Either you must drop it, or you must learn to be very patient.

"How can I drop it?" you ask. Can you just drop your family? Drop it in your heart. Let go of your inner attachment. You are like a bird that has laid eggs; you have a responsibility to sit with and hatch them. Otherwise, they will become rotten.

You may want the members of your family to appreciate you, to understand why you act in certain ways, yet they may not. Their attitude may be intolerant, closed-minded. If the father is a thief and the son disapproves, is he a bad child? Explain things as well as you can, make an honest effort, then let go. If you have a pain and go to the doctor, but he and all his medicines cannot cure it, what can you do but let it go?

If you think in terms of my family, my practice, this kind of self-centered view is just another cause of suffering. Do not think of finding happiness, either living with others or living alone-just live with the Dharma. Buddhism helps to work out problems, but we must practice and develop wisdom first. You do not just throw rice into a potful of water and immediately have boiled rice. You have to build the fire, bring the water to a boil, and let the rice cook long enough. With wisdom, problems can eventually be solved by taking into account the karma of beings. Understanding family life, you can really learn about karma, about cause and effect, and can begin to take care of your action in the future.

Practicing in a group, in a monastery, or at a retreat is not so hard; you are too embarrassed to miss sittings with others. But when you go home, you find it difficult; you say that you are lazy or unable to find time. You give away your personal power, projecting it onto others, onto situations or teachers outside yourself. Just wake up! You create your own world. Do you want to practice or not?

Just as we monks must strive with our precepts and ascetic practices, developing the discipline that leads to freedom, so you lay people must do likewise. As you practice in your homes, you should endeavour to refine the basic precepts. Strive to put body and speech in order. Make real effort, practice continuously. As for concentrating the mind, do not give up because you have tried it once or twice and are not at peace. Why should it not take a long time? How long have you let your mind wander as it wished without
doing anything to control it? How long have you allowed it to lead you around by the nose? Is it any. wonder that a month or two is not enough to still it?

Of course, the mind is hard to train. When a horse is really stubborn, do not feed it for a while-it will come around. When it starts to follow the right.
course, feed it a little. The beauty of our way of life is that the mind can be trained. With our own right effort, we can come to wisdom.

To live the lay life and practice Dharma, one must be in the world but remain above it. Virtue, beginning with the five basic precepts, is all important, parent to all good things. It is the basis for removing wrong from the mind, removing the cause of distress and agitation. Make virtue really firm. Then practice your formal meditation when the opportunity presents itself. Sometimes the meditation will be good, sometimes not. Do not worry about it, just continue. If doubts arise, just realize that they, like everything else in the mind, are impermanent.

As you continue, concentration will arise. Use it to develop wisdom. See like and dislike arising from sense contact and do not attach to them. Do not be anxious for results or quick progress. An infant first crawls, then learns to walk, then to run. Just be firm in your virtue and keep practicing.

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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:08 am

jason c wrote:
Cittasanto wrote:
jason c wrote:hey cittasanto can you clarify your last statement?

Yes, care about how you act now, be one thing, and true to it.

yes, be present NOW, pay attention to NOW, this is what the buddha taught and meditation is practice to cultivate this.

there is a little more to it than just that.
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby jason c » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:06 am

please share.
metta,
jason

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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:09 pm

jason c wrote:please share.
metta,
jason

it is right there in what I wrote in both counts, underlined in the quoted text in my last post!
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
"Others will misconstrue reality based on personal perspectives, firmly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our personal perspectives, nor firmly holding them, but easily discarded."

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Re: what is the relevence of eating before noon?

Postby Hanzze » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:59 am

Dear Jason,

I guess the Instructions to Rahula is the most useful guide to come buy one self into the right line, without seeking to much reference in "this should be" and "that should be". Even in regard to food, its a all round advice without elbow where ever we are.

Using past, present and both for a better future without much speculations.
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Why one meal a day?

Postby GirlBoyGirl » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:42 am

This is a really interesting thread. There is NO way I could get my husband on board with this but it is interesting to say the least. I don't know how my body would handle one meal a day. I usually eat the frequent small meals a day or I get weak/dizzy.

On an unrelated note, I love Goofaholix's Syd the Science Kid avatar! :)

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Re: Why one meal a day?

Postby harveysmith27 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:18 am

If you are trying to lose weight, you may be tempted to eat just one meal a day.
You're likely to lose weight -- at least initially. But it's also likely that you'll be hungry.

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Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby purple planet » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:44 pm

I used to be vegan now i am in a "break" of 3 months in which i ate meat - and now i want to go back to being vegan
- at the time i eat in the morning cereal with milk and for lunch vegetables with meat and then i dont eat until next morning -

My question is how to eat vegan and once or twice a day and still get all nutritional vitamins and minerals and also proteins and carbs ? and how do you do it with only one meal a day ?
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby Ben » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:05 pm

Unless you are a monk, I don't understand why you only want to eat once a day.
Be that as it may, make sure that your meal contains a range of different food items inc beans/tofu/tempeh, green vegetables such as bok choi, peas, broccoli and a source of carbs - potato, rice or bread. There should be easily available resources on the internet to help you balance your diet.
All the best,

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby marc108 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:47 pm

purple planet wrote:My question is how to eat vegan and once or twice a day and still get all nutritional vitamins and minerals and also proteins and carbs ? and how do you do it with only one meal a day ?


impossible
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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby Sam Vara » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:09 pm

Ben's advice is very sound. In addition, you will need a source of vitamin B12.

The English monk Ajahn Vajiro has been vegan for a long while and says it has caused him no problems on one meal a day.

But to echo Ben again, why bother with this when you don't need to?

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:36 pm

See this long thread on this subject: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3045

marc108 wrote:
purple planet wrote:My question is how to eat vegan and once or twice a day and still get all nutritional vitamins and minerals and also proteins and carbs ? and how do you do it with only one meal a day ?


impossible


Definitely not impossible because I'm doing it and I know of others who are doing it.

You just need to make sure to get enough protein, not because we need that much protein (we don't) but simply so you will have more of a sensation of being full. And this can be done with plenty of grains, legumes, nuts, beans, tofu, etc.

The only nutrient the vegan diet is missing is B-12 but the amount we need is measured in micrograms, not even in grams. There are some (harder to find) vegan sources too.

As with any one meal program or two meals before noon, you need to make sure to get at / close to the number of calories that you ate with three meals, just all at once if doing one meal. It is not that hard once you get used to it. As lay people it is not required, so I don't do it all the time, but around 90% of the time.

I use the same principle with being vegan -- I don't do it all the time, since it's not required of me for any reason other than good nutrition, so will eat lacto-ovo on occasion. And eating lacto-ovo once in a while then supplies all the B-12 you need.

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:05 am

Not only B12 but choline, also considered an essential nutrient.

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby marc108 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:36 am

David N. Snyder wrote:Definitely not impossible because I'm doing it and I know of others who are doing it.


respectfully, I would invite you to download cron-o-meter(.com) and enter your food for a few days. i've done so much long term analysis on my diet for school (vegetarian, eat twice per day) i know its nearly impossible to get 100% vits/mins without serious planning and habitual eating patterns and literally impossible as a vegan (without supplementation). whether or not getting 100% of everything is going to effect your health in the long term is a different story... it seems a lot of people can have subadaquate nutrition and live long healthy lives for some reason.
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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:22 am

I've done it for a while, so it's possible, but it requires heedfulness and quite a bit of research. I would suggest, if possible, that you contact a professional nutritionist or dietician.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby purple planet » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:22 am

David N. Snyder and LonesomeYogurt can you tell me examples meals you ate - that would be very helpful
Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:39 am

purple planet wrote:David N. Snyder and LonesomeYogurt can you tell me examples meals you ate - that would be very helpful

Usually I made sure to include tofu or tempeh in large quantities, but otherwise I did a rotating lineup of spinach, broccoli, and other leafy greens as well as peanuts or almonds if I didn't include any main protein. Rice and beans, preferably together, are also great things to work in a few times a week. Coconut milk is also your friend when it comes to making curries or other large, multi-ingredient dishes. I stayed away from most grains besides rice and occasionally whole-wheat wraps. Honestly I found that Asian food was the easiest to "veganize" and I tended mostly towards simplicity, although I'm sure someone who is a better cook than I could wring more out of the ingredients and make any type of approach work.

Take a supplement for B12 and other necessities. You might also consider a general vegan vitamin and, if you're not too rigid, maybe some fresh fruit for an evening snack.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

Stuff I write about things.

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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby DAWN » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:57 am

I eat bio vegan one meal a day until one year perharps.

And i dont care about vitamins. It's more simple.
Anyway we go die.
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Re: Vegan diet - and one meal a day ?

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:59 pm

purple planet wrote:David N. Snyder and LonesomeYogurt can you tell me examples meals you ate - that would be very helpful


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I eat a variety of foods; here is a sample:

Stir fry veggies and tofu, rice,
veggie burger,
fake-meat deli slices in a sandwich,
falafel in a pita with salad (I know you know that one),
salads,
cooked vegetables in curry sauce,
Indian foods made vegan such as malai kofta balls and other vegetarian Indian dishes without the dairy cream sauces that are usually in the recipes.
Vegan Ethiopian foods such as mixed veggies, spicy lentils, green beans with carrots and spicy sauce, etc.
Bar-be-Que tofu (just put slices of tofu on a cooking sheet, brush with bar-be-que sauce and bake for about 10 minutes; easy)
Italian foods such as vegan lasagne, vegan pizza (soy cheese), pastas

As you can see, it doesn't have to be boring to be vegan and it can still be tasty. :tongue:


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