Thank you for quoting this.
Upasika Kee Nanayon wrote:The Lord Buddha resolved Mogharaja's Problem, by advising him to see the world as empty, as not-self, as being composed of elements and aggregates. The aggregates (and so on) must be stripped away, and concepts and assumptions such as 'person' or 'animal' (and so on) must be disestablished. The elements, aggregates, sense bases and concepts, need to be all exposed so that there's no more grasping at them. What remains is the Deathless Dhamma. This is without birth or death, and is also called the World-Transcending Dhamma or Nibbaana.
And that is the problem: "The Deathless Dhamma." What does it actually mean? Is it referring to some sort objective thing outside the the experiences/dhammas of the individual within whom greed, hatred, and delusion has been destroyed? If so, that would certainly imply that nibbana would exist even if there were no ariyas.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... .html#chb5
There are many names, but they all essentially refer to the same thing. When mundane things are spurned, the result is the Transcendent Dhamma, the Non-Determined Dhamma, Pure Dhamma. Just consider the running-on, the coursing-on from birth to death, from death to birth in the different realms of existence. Then decide if Nibbana is really worth attaining. On that farther shore, there's no suffering, no birth or death, because the 'King of Death' can't reach there. Yet because we can't fathom this out, we persist in repeatedly choosing to be born on this nether shore, amidst its endless suffering.
Interestingly, the "transcendent dhamma" would be any dhamma
that is completely free of the conditioning of greed, hatred, and delusion. Truth/Dhamma are cognitions/dhammas free of greed, hatred, and delusion; it is not an objective, independently existing thing. We must be careful not to objectify Dhamma/nibbana, lest we turn it into some sort of existent thing that exists independently of any ariya.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
There is freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning. If there were not this freedom from birth, freedom from becoming, freedom from making, freedom from conditioning, then escape from that which is birth, becoming, making, conditioning, would not be known here. -- Ud 80
Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.
dheamhan a fhios agam
Damned if I know.