How many monks would be required in order to ordain someone? If one were to meet a wandering but officially ordained, precept-keeping monk, could that one monk ordain another?
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How many monks are required to ordain someone?
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How many monks are required to ordain someone?
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censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.
Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.
His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta
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Re: How many monks are required to ordain someone?
no, for acceptance into the sangha as a bhikkhu they would need ordained at least 10 years, and five bhikkhus are needed, the minimum number for a full sangha act in most cases.LonesomeYogurt wrote:How many monks would be required in order to ordain someone? If one were to meet a wandering but officially ordained, precept-keeping monk, could that one monk ordain another?
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EDIT - maybe wrong about the 10 years and it could be 5 as some of the conditions in the vinaya were lessened, such as dependence and I can not remember if this was one of them
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill