Question about Theravada tradition
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Question about Theravada tradition
How did Theravada tradition become distinct from Mahayana & Vajrayana tradtions? . .thanks
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
This is a pretty sticky topic but it may be more accurate to turn the question on its head and ask how the Mahayana and Vajrayana become distinct traditions largely without reference to the Pali Canon. Let the controversy begin anew...
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Didn't Mahayana and Vajrayana develop AFTER Theravada?Wesley1982 wrote:How did Theravada tradition become distinct from Mahayana & Vajrayana tradtions? . .thanks
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I didn't think it was a hot topic. Theravada must be regionally Indian where Gautama Buddha lived and died - Mahayana and Vajrayana must have been "introduced" to Tibet, parts of Asia, and China.
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Yes, I think so. Or maybe parallel along the same time <?>Alex123 wrote:Didn't Mahayana and Vajrayana develop AFTER Theravada?Wesley1982 wrote:How did Theravada tradition become distinct from Mahayana & Vajrayana tradtions? . .thanks
Re: Question about Theravada tradition
That depends on who you ask. For example in the T'ien T'ai (Tendai) chronological categories, the Avatamsaka Sutra was taught first right after the Buddha achieved Enlightenment. Modern scholarship will disagree with this.Alex123 wrote:Didn't Mahayana and Vajrayana develop AFTER Theravada?Wesley1982 wrote:How did Theravada tradition become distinct from Mahayana & Vajrayana tradtions? . .thanks
Theravada states that the first teachings was the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta. So I guess it's important to ask from which view are you investigating this question.
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Even so, on the rubbish heap of blinded mortals the disciple of the Supremely Enlightened One shines resplendent in wisdom." Dhammapada: Pupphavagga
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Because people interpret things differently and can't come to an agreement.Wesley1982 wrote:How did Theravada tradition become distinct from Mahayana & Vajrayana tradtions? . .thanks
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Of course, Theravada tradition can be looked up on Wikipedia but its better to discuss it.
Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Since this topic can be exhausting, has been discussed many times before, and you are a new member, it may help if you give a few reasons why you want to have this discussion. Just an idea.Wesley1982 wrote:Of course, Theravada tradition can be looked up on Wikipedia but its better to discuss it.
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I spent some time over at the other Dharma Wheel forum before coming here. Did not know this would be a hot topicSDC wrote:Since this topic can be exhausting, has been discussed many times before, and you are a new member, it may help if you give a few reasons why you want to have this discussion. Just an idea.Wesley1982 wrote:Of course, Theravada tradition can be looked up on Wikipedia but its better to discuss it.
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
It is not a hot topic. It is now in the "Open Dhamma" section.
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Definitely not hot, just very broad.Wesley1982 wrote:Did not know this would be a hot topic
EDIT - Sorry for coming off like a cynical pr*#k.
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
When did followers of the Dhamma-Vinaya start calling themselves Theravadins?
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"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Greetings,
Metta,
Retro.
Presumably when they felt the need to differentiate themselves from those who didn't?polarbuddha101 wrote:When did followers of the Dhamma-Vinaya start calling themselves Theravadins?
Metta,
Retro.
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Re: Question about Theravada tradition
Probably when they realized that by just calling themselves "Buddhist" meant that they believed in everything that was classified as Buddhism; of which there was a great deal that they did not agree with.polarbuddha101 wrote:When did followers of the Dhamma-Vinaya start calling themselves Theravadins?
EDIT - Retro beat me.
“Life is swept along, short is the life span; no shelters exist for one who has reached old age. Seeing clearly this danger in death, a seeker of peace should drop the world’s bait.” SN 1.3