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OK I am half joking, a tomato is a fruit (look at the seeds) but it is used as a vegetable so the usa courts deamed it a vegetable :juggling:
but congress deeming a pizza a vegetable is stupid! not just stupid, but completely missing what a pizza is...
here is a reuters article on the childhood obesity fight in the USA I just saw
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... ED20120427" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I watched the video linked in the top left hand corner
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Thanks Cittasanto.
You should check out Jamie Oliver's documentary series on his 'food revolution' in the United States.


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I saw part of one, turned off when he started crying :thinking:
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You say tom-ay-toh I say tom-ah-toh...
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Cittasanto wrote:OK I am half joking, a tomato is a fruit (look at the seeds) but it is used as a vegetable so the usa courts deamed it a vegetable :juggling:
but congress deeming a pizza a vegetable is stupid! not just stupid, but completely missing what a pizza is...
here is a reuters article on the childhood obesity fight in the USA I just saw
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... ED20120427" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I watched the video linked in the top left hand corner
Your post betrays a basic misunderstanding of how the american system of government works. The government exists only to implement policy as determined by the corporations and articulated by their lobbyists.
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m0rl0ck wrote:Your post betrays a basic misunderstanding of how the american system of government works. The government exists only to implement policy as determined by the corporations and articulated by their lobbyists.
There are alternatives ... of sorts. Here' s a view of how the wannabe-US-government would like to work:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/02-0

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okay okay okay ... sorry, Cittasanto, for dragging this even further OT ...
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m0rl0ck wrote:
Cittasanto wrote:OK I am half joking, a tomato is a fruit (look at the seeds) but it is used as a vegetable so the usa courts deamed it a vegetable :juggling:
but congress deeming a pizza a vegetable is stupid! not just stupid, but completely missing what a pizza is...
here is a reuters article on the childhood obesity fight in the USA I just saw
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/ ... ED20120427" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I watched the video linked in the top left hand corner
Your post betrays a basic misunderstanding of how the american system of government works. The government exists only to implement policy as determined by the corporations and articulated by their lobbyists.
your post betrays a basic misunderstanding of what I said!
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Kim O'Hara wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:Your post betrays a basic misunderstanding of how the american system of government works. The government exists only to implement policy as determined by the corporations and articulated by their lobbyists.
There are alternatives ... of sorts. Here' s a view of how the wannabe-US-government would like to work:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/02-0

:spy:
Kim

okay okay okay ... sorry, Cittasanto, for dragging this even further OT ...
:focus:
No Worries I find it amusing that any government would want to dictate what nature is, let alone morph what things are to suit.
Science classifies; politicians distort.

BTW, I saw an interesting quote from Cicero saying politicians are excreted, not born :)
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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Cittasanto wrote: No Worries I find it amusing that any government would want to dictate what nature is, let alone morph what things are to suit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, one of the most famous attempts to establish scientific truth by legislative fiat. Despite that name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, rather than to establish a certain value for the mathematical constant π (pi), the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. However, the bill does contain text that appears to dictate various incorrect values of π, such as 3.2 (when 3.1 is closer, with π = 3.14159265...).

The bill never became law, due to the intervention of a mathematics professor who happened to be present in the legislature.
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LOL, I was thinking this morning vegetarians can now eat Peperoni Pizza as it is legally a vegetable :coffee:
mikenz66 wrote:
Cittasanto wrote: No Worries I find it amusing that any government would want to dictate what nature is, let alone morph what things are to suit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Indiana Pi Bill is the popular name for bill #246 of the 1897 sitting of the Indiana General Assembly, one of the most famous attempts to establish scientific truth by legislative fiat. Despite that name, the main result claimed by the bill is a method to square the circle, rather than to establish a certain value for the mathematical constant π (pi), the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. However, the bill does contain text that appears to dictate various incorrect values of π, such as 3.2 (when 3.1 is closer, with π = 3.14159265...).

The bill never became law, due to the intervention of a mathematics professor who happened to be present in the legislature.
:anjali:
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But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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Cittasanto wrote:LOL, I was thinking this morning vegetarians can now eat Peperoni Pizza as it is legally a vegetable :coffee:
I'll put it on the menu!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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Learn this from the waters:
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loud gush the streamlets,
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Ben wrote:Thanks Cittasanto.
You should check out Jamie Oliver's documentary series on his 'food revolution' in the United States.

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The American public does have power, once we are educated.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogall ... -factories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unfortunately, most of the time we have our head in the sand.
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Cittasanto wrote:LOL, I was thinking this morning vegetarians can now eat Peperoni Pizza as it is legally a vegetable :coffee:
This is a slight misunderstanding of the ruling. Pizza was declared to contain a serving of vegetables because of the tomato sauce (as well as a serving of bread, dairy (cheese), etc.). If the slice has pepperoni on it, it would be considered to also contain a serving of meat. It's not an either/or thing.

Your overall point on the ridiculousness of this system: totally valid.
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