Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

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Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Buddhist Prime » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:31 am

Has there ever been a demonic possession ever recorded in Buddhism?
And if so has there ever been a Buddhist Exorcism that expelled the demon?

I'm just curious as to why Christianity is so full of them,
yet I have never heard of Buddhism ever having anything like it.
I always concluded that maybe Christianity had demons in it
already that's why it has had such a bloody history, I dunno.
Because I read this book, The Dark Side of Christian History:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Dark-Side-Christian-History/dp/0964487349/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332811610&sr=8-1

On Yahoo Answers, anytime somebody asked about how to cast a demon out,
I would copy and paste this answer:
Buddhism has never had a case of demonic possession, or a need for Exorcisms, or problems with ghosts or demons, that should tell ya something. The cross thing-a-ma-jig doesn't work like people think it does, ya need something more powerful.

Acquire the Protection of the Buddha.
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Of course, I really don't know, so to be sure, I figured I ask and see if anybody knows anything.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:35 am

Greetings,

I'm pretty sure there are instances of demon possession, in which case your boilerplate response would be incorrect.

From memory, I think such possession constitutes one of the grounds for being exonerated for one's actions in the Vinaya. Whether 'demon possession' is literal, or whether it might be referring to mental illness, epileptic fits or something else, I'm not sure.

Either way, if I were you, I'd hold off in responding in such a way until you get confirmation, unless you wish to risk misrepresenting the Dhamma.

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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby plwk » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:49 am

Firstly, perhaps this may be of help..

Secondly, the one account I have read of and related to your question from the Pali Sutta is the Ratana Sutta otherwise as far as I know in the Theravada Tradition, there is a practice of reciting verses from the Suttas for various occasions and from what I have known in life, even for those who are 'troubled' in the context of your question, the methods do vary from going for psychiatric and spiritual counselling, making offerings to the Triple Gem to organising a group of laity/monastics to do a Paritta Chanting session.

Thirdly, imo, the best 'exorcism' is the preventive measure taken by one to learn and practice with worthy teacher(s)/center/temple, kalyanamittas and one's own daily and faithful practice...

Fourthly, here's one video I have from seen before some years back and I leave it to you to make out what it may be...

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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:32 am

To my reading of the texts I have to simply echo Retro, and confirm his memory, although it does not specify demon, in the western understanding, from my memory.
The closest thing to an excorcism is the Metta Sutta which was used by monks, in the origin story, to calm down some tree devas who were causing them trouble.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Moggalana » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:47 am

Ajahn Chah knew how to deal with demons ;-)
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby danieLion » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:04 am

Moggalana wrote:Ajahn Chah knew how to deal with demons ;-)

so cool
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby carlosm » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:12 am

Moggalana wrote:Ajahn Chah knew how to deal with demons ;-)


love this story, thanks for sharing it!
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Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby GraemeR » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:26 am

Buddhist Prime wrote:
Of course, I really don't know, so to be sure, I figured I ask and see if anybody knows anything.


I live in Thailand and Thai tradition is full of spirits, ghosts and the like. There is also some Buddhism mixed in.

If you want to know more try going to youtube and search Thai ghost, exorcism or the like. Or if you like send me a message and I can give details of my experiences off list.

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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby santa100 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:21 pm

The Buddhist view on demons isn't really antagonistic because the Buddha taught us that they're just other kinds of sentient beings in the 6 realms full of afflictions and suffering just like us humans. That's why the attitude isn't to exorcise them, but to try to spread the Buddha's compassion and wisdom to them through one's own observance of precepts and the practice of metta meditation. If one's intention is sincere enough, those demons will recognize that annoying other people would only make their kamma worse and worse, thus piling more and more suffering to themselves. The best way is to take refuge in the Triple Gem and apply lessons of compassion and wisdom that the Great Teacher has taught.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby greatyu » Sun May 27, 2012 10:23 am

Hi, im a theravada buddhist, and about exorcisms regarding demons, there is a particular sutta called "Atanatiya" which is used to invite the spirits and demons and then send them away with the words of dhamma. It is a part of Maha Pirith, and is chanted early in the morning. We were strongly advised to stay indoors during the chant. Ultimately, if accidentally a person gets possessed he or she is taken to a nearby temple and is given Pirith pan (something like holy water) and the spirits leaves the body.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby pilgrim » Sun May 27, 2012 12:50 pm

"To free a Buddhist from an evil spirit, the Atanatiya Sutta should only be recited as a last resort after trying to do so through the recitation of the Metta Sutta, the Dhajagga Sutta and the Ratana Sutta—and even then only by knowledgeable members of the Sangha."

More on the Atanatiya sutta and Paritta here
http://sasanarakkha.org/talks/2003/03/f ... ings.shtml
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby hanzze_ » Sun May 27, 2012 1:14 pm

santa100 wrote:The Buddhist view on demons isn't really antagonistic because the Buddha taught us that they're just other kinds of sentient beings in the 6 realms full of afflictions and suffering just like us humans. That's why the attitude isn't to exorcise them, but to try to spread the Buddha's compassion and wisdom to them through one's own observance of precepts and the practice of metta meditation. If one's intention is sincere enough, those demons will recognize that annoying other people would only make their kamma worse and worse, thus piling more and more suffering to themselves. The best way is to take refuge in the Triple Gem and apply lessons of compassion and wisdom that the Great Teacher has taught.

:goodpost: very imported message, which should be always in mind. We do not free us from them but we free us from the fear of them. And therefore the support of the suttas, which should be understood and not only chanted.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Clarence » Sun May 27, 2012 4:36 pm

Maybe not the right place but ask at the sister forum dharmawheel.net
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby hanzze_ » Sun May 27, 2012 5:06 pm

Of cause there you will get offered more spectaculars.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Sylvester » Mon May 28, 2012 7:16 am

From Ajahn Thanissaro's notes on the Vinaya -

A bhikkhu who kills a "non-human being" — a yakkha, nāga, or peta — or a devatā (this last is in the Commentary) incurs a thullaccaya. According to the Commentary, when a spirit possesses a human being or an animal, it can be exorcised in either of two ways. The first is to command it to leave: This causes no injury to the spirit and results in no offense. The second is to make a doll out of flour paste or clay and then to cut off various of its parts (!). If one cuts off the hands and feet, the spirit loses its hands and feet. If one cuts off the head, the spirit dies, which is grounds for a thullaccaya.


http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... .ch04.html

I've not located the primary source in the Vinaya though. Anyone care to try?

For a portable exorcism device used by laity in Thai Buddhism, you do have the meed-mors (special knives). These are consecrated to invoke -

1. Sakka's Vajirāvudha
2. Vessavana's Gadāvudha
3. Ālavaka's Dussāvudha
4. Yama's Nayanāyudha
5. Vishnu's Chakra.

The first 4 are mentioned in the Commentaries, but the fifth probably snuck in during the Puranic period.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Kusala » Wed May 30, 2012 3:53 pm

Buddhist Prime wrote:Has there ever been a demonic possession ever recorded in Buddhism?
And if so has there ever been a Buddhist Exorcism that expelled the demon?

I'm just curious as to why Christianity is so full of them,
yet I have never heard of Buddhism ever having anything like it.
I always concluded that maybe Christianity had demons in it
already that's why it has had such a bloody history, I dunno.
Because I read this book, The Dark Side of Christian History:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Dark-Side-Christian-History/dp/0964487349/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332811610&sr=8-1

On Yahoo Answers, anytime somebody asked about how to cast a demon out,
I would copy and paste this answer:
Buddhism has never had a case of demonic possession, or a need for Exorcisms, or problems with ghosts or demons, that should tell ya something. The cross thing-a-ma-jig doesn't work like people think it does, ya need something more powerful.

Acquire the Protection of the Buddha.
Wear a Buddhist Swastika Necklace for protection. You can get them from here: http://www.ezluxe.com/accessories/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71&products_id=363&zenid=a91ca5f8a4bbc647b0823018c387352a


Of course, I really don't know, so to be sure, I figured I ask and see if anybody knows anything.


You might want to listen to "Buddhism And Psychic Phenomena" by Ajahn Nyanadhammo.

http://www.dhammaloka.org.au/downloads/ ... omena.html

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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Wesley1982 » Wed May 30, 2012 4:46 pm

Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?


Yes, but its only done by lamas or teachers who actually know what they are doing.
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed May 30, 2012 7:34 pm

Sylvester wrote:I've not located the primary source in the Vinaya though. Anyone care to try?

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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby alktheone » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:29 am

Sylvester wrote:From Ajahn Thanissaro's notes on the Vinaya -
I've not located the primary source in the Vinaya though. Anyone care to try?

Hello!
It is from Pārājika of Vinayapitaka:
Tena kho pana samayena aññataro bhūtavejjako bhikkhu yakkhaṃ jīvitā voropesi. Tassa kukkuccaṃ ahosi…pe… ‘‘anāpatti, bhikkhu, pārājikassa; āpatti thullaccayassā’’ti.

where it is said that one bhikkhu deprived a yakkha of life and fall under thullaccaya but not parajika.

With the corresponding commentaries, explaining two methods of how to release a person, seized by yakkha:
Bhūtavejjakavatthusmiṃ – yakkhaṃ māresīti bhūtavijjākapāṭhakā yakkhagahitaṃ mocetukāmā yakkhaṃ āvāhetvā muñcāti vadanti. No ce muñcati, piṭṭhena vā mattikāya vā rūpaṃ katvā hatthapādādīni chindanti, yaṃ yaṃ tassa chijjati taṃ taṃ yakkhassa chinnameva hoti. Sīse chinne yakkhopi marati. Evaṃ sopi māresi; tasmā thullaccayaṃ vuttaṃ. Na kevalañca yakkhameva, yopi hi sakkaṃ devarājaṃ māreyya, sopi thullaccayameva āpajjati.


It is also interesting to note from this commentary, that not every yakkha incurs thullaccaya in the case of killing him, but only a sort of high-rank yakkha (sakkaṃ devarājaṃ).
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Re: Are ther any Buddhist rites for Exorcising Demons?

Postby SarathW » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:45 am

My understanding is that demons can’t possess us. But they can affect us. The same way another human or animal can affect us.
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