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Cittasanto wrote:I do not practice Yoga myself but do know others who do, or practice Tai Chi, Qui Gong, or other form; essentially from my perspective from very limited participation (about 4 sessions of the varying practices mentioned above) it can be used as a form of meditative practice, particularly involving the four postures or clear knowing section of the satipatthana sutta.

It is well worth noting, particularly regarding the philosophical side of any practice, that the Buddha never said other philosophies were completely wrong about everything, and on occasion either reinterpreted the philosophy/practice to be inline with right view, changing very little, or borrowed the part/s that were useful/in-line with right view.

it is a take what is useful, situation the better you understand and are in-line with right view the easier it is to look at a philosophy or interpretation and see the benefiscial aspects of it, and thus able to disregard the unuseful parts
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lutysouie wrote:If you want to read something about it from a monk, let's read this :
http://bhanterahula.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... ix_07.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Bhante Rahula is a Theravadan monk and also yoga teacher.
Thanks for the link.
Ytrog wrote:I want to learn yoga to strenghten my back too. I also really can use some form of sport as my daily movement usually consists of pushing my mouse around (does mouse pushing count as a sport btw? :P) and walking to and from the coffee machine. My condition is not getting better this way.

Are there any good practices for starters?
Hi Ytrog. I just picked up these beginner Hatha Yoga DVD's and I've only done one routine but I really like it so far. I'm sure doing the routines in the videos would help to strengthen your back.

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Ytrog wrote:I want to learn yoga to strenghten my back too. I also really can use some form of sport as my daily movement usually consists of pushing my mouse around (does mouse pushing count as a sport btw? :P) and walking to and from the coffee machine. My condition is not getting better this way.

Are there any good practices for starters?
They are *all* good practices for starters :tongue: - doing *anything* is better than doing nothing.
That said, I have settled on Qi Gong because I like the continuous gentle movement. Yoga, in contrast, is static and (like you) I already spend too much time sitting still.
But really, you must find a practice that you like enough to keep doing it. The exercise you *intend* to take doesn't do you any good at all.

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I love Yoga! I been doing Kriya Yoga and I been doing Qi Gong as well.
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I love doing hatha yoga for about 20 years. If one tries yoga as stated by Sri Patanjali, that is 8 steps all together, then can easily gets into the results of it. Actually
what Patanjali says ''yogas chitta vritti nirodhah'' which means almost the samething in Buddhism, as there is no vritties in the citta of an arhant...PURE CONSCIOUSNESS is left..

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Sun Salutations are a great way to start out the day.
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With regards to Tai chi, I practice every morning and evening for a short time and have found it an excellent opportunity to practice mindfulness in a more dynamic situation to just plain sitting. Sitting is still the cornerstone of my practice but Tai chi (and Hatha Yoga) can be quite complementary. One can bring qualities of one practice to the other.

However, someone did once give me some advice once. They said "don't try to achieve the aims and goals of one while practicing the other." I think this is good advice. you can't ride two bicycles at once. Sit when you sit. Exercise when you exercise. -Was the point they were making. Also more broadly speaking, Buddhism, Daoism and Hinduism(?) may share many common ideas and truths but it could be hazardous to start mixing and matching. So proceed with your good sense.
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I have been practicing them both for well over ten years (Yoga 20 years, Buddhism 12 years). I think they compliment each other very well...............It is really easy to make the practice of both of them part of our life and how we are. I started with Yoga and through Yoga came to Buddhism. My practice consists of meditation for 30 minutes each day, at least 30 minutes of Hatha Yoga and then race walking for at least one hour a day. For each one hour of racewalking I do, I try to do 20 to 30 minutes of Hatha Yoga. I also do a lot of Bible study and am fascinated by how the concepts and vocabulary of Buddhism comes up again and again in the teachings that are put forth in the Bible. With that in mind, May The Buddha, God and Patanjali bless you and us all........
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How Do Yoga and Buddhism Help Us Make A Stronger Connection with Others

Growing up in Brooklyn, New York was not a bad environment to grow up in at all.

But what made it difficult was the feeling of being mentally and physically isolated from others. Apparently this was a feeling that many inhabitants of
this great city had.

It is also a feeling that people in cities all over the world seem to have. I have sensed it among the inhabitants of Bangkok where I have lived for the last
17 years as I have in other cities that I have visited such as Seoul, Tokyo, Istanbul, London, Brisbane, Sydney, Phnom Phen, Singapore, Jakarta and Lahore,
among others.

Perhaps feelings of loneliness are common to all big cities and anywhere in the world, but to feel that one is mentally and physically isolated from others is
dangerous as such a feeling can lead to alienation, anxiety and depression.

If we are at a state of ease in how we relate to others in any environment be it a small village or big city, we will be healthier and happier people and
better able, open and willing to make meaningful connections with others.

So how can the teachings and disciplines of Yoga assist us in making a stronger connection with others?

Having practiced and taught these disciplines for a number of years and in a number of different environments, this writer has found two specific
practices to be most helpful.

In Yoga it has been the practice of Yoga postures. The practice of postures brings about a release of tension in the body. When we release this tension, we make our
physical and mental energy purer and more relaxed. We start to see, perceive and experience things with greater energy and clarity. In feeling our own energy
better we naturally see, feel and respect and love the energy of others better.

In Buddhism it has been the teaching known as right understanding. Right understanding teaches us that there is suffering in life. It is something that we
all experience and how we experience is remarkably similar among human beings. In being exposed to this understanding and strengthening this understanding
through our practice and reflection on it, we are making a stronger connection with others based on compassion and clearer comprehension of the ways
things are in life.

If we understand others, how can we feel isolated from them or anxious to them?

Of course there is a degree of shyness whenever we are around new people or people that we have not met before, but we are not talking about shyness here, we
are talking about making a stronger connection with others.

This is a connection based on seeing and experiencing things clearly.

It is also a connection that we can all work to and one that is both important and worthwhile to work to.

It makes us compassionate instead of anxious.

It makes us practice loving kindness instead of being selfish.

It makes us think, speak and act with wisdom instead of being ignorant and having a desire or obsession that needs to be filled by any means possible.

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Both Yoga and Buddhism have the capacity, if we understand and practice them alone or in conjunction correctly and diligently, to make those of us who are or have been spritually confused or dead very much alive.....
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Didn't the Buddha learn yoga and forms of meditation from 2 Yogis. I mean, his teachers didn't take him to enlightenment but I'm sure they helped him a little bit.
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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polarbuddha101 wrote:Didn't the Buddha learn yoga and forms of meditation from 2 Yogis. I mean, his teachers didn't take him to enlightenment but I'm sure they helped him a little bit.
Not quite.
Yoga as we understand it today is a modern phenomenon.
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Yeah, I just kind of assumed they were yogis I guess. I always thought yoga was around 3000 years old or something, the kind where you stretch alot amongst other mystical stuff like chakras. I need to read a book on ancient Indian history or something.

Anyway, I'm about to start taking up some hatha yoga cause I am way inflexible and I don't want my body to deteriorate too quickly as I age and become more stiff. Plus I think yoga will give me more awareness or mindfulness of my body and improve my circulation and athletic ability and in turn make meditation easier and more fruitful. Full range of motion sounds nice. Plus, I'd be down to be able to bust a full lotus someday
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."
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polarbuddha101 wrote:Yeah, I just kind of assumed they were yogis I guess. I always thought yoga was around 3000 years old or something...
Tilt is right but so are you ... mostly, anyway. Their practice is what developed into yoga as we know it, but the differences are quite significant - as you would expect when you look at the time-span. You wouldn't expect a farmer or builder now to work the same way a farmer or builder in ancient India did, and the same applies to yoga.

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Hello all,

I'm just going off to a beginners' class in Yoga. Not sure what to expect, or how long I'll last .... :tongue:
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Good for you Chris!
To all:
I do Yoga every day and would not conceive of ever giving it up.
How does anyone live without Yoga?
Answer: they live bent, slouchy, and crooked. Awful!

A warped body will eventually produce warped health. Take control of your body--do Yoga. I promise you will feel better!
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