Tathāgatagarbha & Buddha-dhatu (DFFA version)

[Kenshou]

No.

But I now realize that this is a topic that I shouldn't have interjected into anyway, so don't worry about it.

[whynotme]

i think the question comes down to, is the mind naturally pure and bright, or is it only colorless and has no shape?

And who ask this question? The one is hurt by an arrow?

if the mind is naturally pure and bright, wouldnt that mean we all have buddha nature, if the mind is at heart undefiled? or is the mind beyond any notion of good and bad pure or impure, meaning its not pure and bright and there is no buddha nature. does that make sense?

Neither is right, it depends on contexts and meanings some words.

[ground]

i think the question comes down to, is the mind naturally pure and bright, or is it only colorless and has no shape?

And who ask this question? The one is hurt by an arrow?

"hurt by the mind" may be more appropriate.

Kind regards

[LastLegend]

So, how do we experience the mind?

Right now you experience mind, do you not? Just not directly. When you become an Arahant, you will also experience mind at a different level.

...is to give us a large load of conceptualization about the mind.

Yes what you said is true. But it is also true that you still imagine or conceptualize what mind is as if it is a substance when it is empty.

[tiltbillings]

So, how do we experience the mind?

Right now you experience mind, do you not?

But that does not tell us anything useful.

[LastLegend]

So, how do we experience the mind?

Right now you experience mind, do you not?

But that does not tell us anything useful.

If the mind is empty, then phenomenal things are interdependent as described in Dependent Origination.

[whynotme]

i think the question comes down to, is the mind naturally pure and bright, or is it only colorless and has no shape?

And who ask this question? The one is hurt by an arrow?

"hurt by the mind" may be more appropriate.

Kind regards

Thanks, that is right