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Re: Video: Meditation: Suttas vs Commentaries

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Video: Meditation: Suttas vs Commentaries

Postby Jhana4 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:21 pm

I don't know anything about the commentaries, the abhidhamma or various writers/teachers views on these works. This uninvolvement makes me feel pretty detached about anything the teacher in the original post may have said about these works. It sounds like it could be an educational debate with all of the details laid out in another thread. As I stated a few times, I started this thread to hear about experiences people have had with this teachers meditation method. I don't care about the other issues. Should I ever read the commentaries and related materials I will be able to decide what I think for myself......possibly with the aide of another thread where those issues are hashed out.

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to type in a response to my original post and the original on topic subject of this thread.....the dude's meditation method.
In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Video: Meditation: Suttas vs Commentaries

Postby Jhana4 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:23 am

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Video: Meditation: Suttas vs Commentaries

Postby thelotuseffect » Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:57 am

:shrug: Depends on who we're talking about really.

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Postby thelotuseffect » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:09 am

Is that vipassana meditation or what?

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Re: Video: Meditation: Suttas vs Commentaries

Postby thelotuseffect » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:17 am

Well Vipassana notes all arising and passing away phenomena. Noting all phenomena is not a step in Bhante V's method. The only noticing occurs during the event of a hindrance and then purifying that before coming back to your meditation object.

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