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Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

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Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby cooran » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:31 pm

Hello all,

What is the Right Attitude for Meditation?

1. Meditating is acknowledging and observing whatever happens —whether pleasant or unpleasant—in a relaxed way.

2. Meditating is watching and waiting patiently with awareness and understanding. Meditation is NOT trying to experience something
you have read or heard about.

3. Just pay attention to the present moment. Don’t get lost in thoughts about the past.
Don’t get carried away by thoughts about the future.

4. When meditating, both the mind and the body should be comfortable.

5. If the mind and the body are getting tired, something is wrong with the way you are practising, and it is time to check the way you are meditating.

6. Why do you focus so hard when you meditate? Do you want something? Do you want something to happen? Do you want something to stop happening?
Check to see if one of these attitudes is present.

7. The meditating mind should be relaxed and at peace. You cannot practise when the mind is tense.

8. Don’t focus too hard, don’t control. Neither force nor restrict yourself.

9. Don’t try to create anything, and don’t reject what is happening.
Just be aware.

10. Trying to create something is greed. Rejecting what is happening is aversion. Not knowing if something is happening or has stopped happening is delusion.

11. Only to the extent that the observing mind has no greed, aversion or anxiety are you truly meditating.

12. Don’t have any expectations, don’t want anything, don’t be anxious, because if these attitudes are in your mind, it becomes difficult to meditate.

13. You are not trying to make things turn out the way you want them to happen. You are trying to know what is happening as it is.

14. What is the mind doing? Thinking? Being aware?

15. Where is the mind now? Inside? Outside?

16. Is the watching or observing mind properly aware or only superficially aware?

17. Don’t practise with a mind that wants something or wants something to happen. The result will only be that you tire yourself out.

18. You have to accept and watch both good and bad experiences. You want only good experiences? You don’t want even the tiniest unpleasant experience?
Is that reasonable? Is this the way of the Dhamma!

19. You have to double check to see what attitude you are meditating with. A light and free mind enables you to meditate well.
Do you have the right attitude?

20. Don’t feel disturbed by the thinking mind. You are not practising to prevent thinking; but rather to recognize and acknowledge thinking whenever it
arises.

21. Don’t reject any object that comes to your attention. Get to know the defilements that arise in relation to the object and keep examining the defilements.

22. The object of attention is not really important; the observing mind that is working in the background to be aware is of real importance.
If the observing is done with the right attitude, any object is the right object.

23. Only when there is faith or confidence (saddhā), effort will arise. Only when there is effort (viriya), mindfulness will become continuous.
Only when mindfulness (sati) is continuous, stability of mind will become established.
Only when stability of mind is established (samādhi), you will start understanding things as they are.
When you start understanding things as they are (paññā), faith will grow stronger.
http://sayadawutejaniya.org/teachings/

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Re: Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby bodom » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:33 pm

:thumbsup:

Thanks for posting Chris.

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


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Re: Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby Goofaholix » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:23 pm

From my experience attitude is more important than technique, I think if teachers stressed them more beginning meditators wouldn't get so uptight about the technique and what to expect.

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Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun May 01, 2011 9:52 pm

Hi Chris,

Thanks for posting this. I just saw it now when you linked to it from another post and I felt it deserved a bump. Metta!
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Postby rowyourboat » Sun May 01, 2011 10:20 pm

It would be an interesting exercise to see how much if this is reflected in the Buddha's words.

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Postby cooran » Sun May 01, 2011 11:13 pm

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Re: Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby rowyourboat » Mon May 02, 2011 6:24 pm

[quote="cooran"]

Hi Cooran,

Now posting sutta links for everything would take too much time

1. Meditating is acknowledging and observing whatever happens —whether pleasant or unpleasant—in a relaxed way.
[actually we are not expected to be the guard who is very aware of the thief stealing everything, but takes no action. We should not just watch akusala, but stop/prevent it from happening]

2. Meditating is watching and waiting patiently with awareness and understanding. Meditation is NOT trying to experience something you have read or heard about.[the Buddha praised stream entry, jhanas etc. This is not goalless.]

3. Just pay attention to the present moment. Don’t get lost in thoughts about the past.
Don’t get carried away by thoughts about the future.[there is also yonisomanasikara - directly 'applying' the teachings to our current experience - it is NOT bare awareness]

4. When meditating, both the mind and the body should be comfortable.[I was tempted to say 'only in samatha' but I think I agree with this]

5. If the mind and the body are getting tired, something is wrong with the way you are practising, and it is time to check the way you are meditating.[hardly, the Sudha sutta talk about what to do, after you have engaged in the satipatthana to the point of getting tired. This is a path of great effort/viriya]

6. Why do you focus so hard when you meditate? Do you want something? Do you want something to happen? Do you want something to stop happening?
Check to see if one of these attitudes is present.[agreed, but concentration should not be lax either, otherwise you will simply fall into thoughts, distraction and sleepiness.]

7. The meditating mind should be relaxed and at peace. You cannot practise when the mind is tense.[it is possible to be aware of some mental tubulance- you should not wait for perfect peace before starting meditation- the Buddha says the antidote for an agitated mind is anapanasati]

8. Don’t focus too hard, don’t control. Neither force nor restrict yourself.[see above]

9. Don’t try to create anything, and don’t reject what is happening.
Just be aware.[see above. The Vitakkasantana sutta for example gives many things to be removed from the mind, if you become aware of them]

10. Trying to create something is greed. Rejecting what is happening is aversion. Not knowing if something is happening or has stopped happening is delusion.[..a very limited definition of the three poisons]

11. Only to the extent that the observing mind has no greed, aversion or anxiety are you truly meditating.[this is the end result of it, not the prerequisites of meditation]

12. Don’t have any expectations, don’t want anything, don’t be anxious, because if these attitudes are in your mind, it becomes difficult to meditate.[true ..to some degree, we don't want people with no motivation either]

13. You are not trying to make things turn out the way you want them to happen. You are trying to know what is happening as it is.[fair enough]

14. What is the mind doing? Thinking? Being aware?

15. Where is the mind now? Inside? Outside? [outside?]

16. Is the watching or observing mind properly aware or only superficially aware?[nice one]

17. Don’t practise with a mind that wants something or wants something to happen. The result will only be that you tire yourself out.

18. You have to accept and watch both good and bad experiences. You want only good experiences? You don’t want even the tiniest unpleasant experience?
Is that reasonable? Is this the way of the dhamma?
http://sayadawutejaniya.org/teachings/

Ok, got to go,

With metta

Matheesha

Ps- this is the 'thin gruel' mindfulness only path of meditation, for those 'poor in view'.
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Re: Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby Freawaru » Tue May 03, 2011 6:18 am

I agree with Matheesha. This list is only for pure insight method and here only for beginners. Advanced students are able to observe emotions and intentions and a tired mind and body even in the pure insight method.

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Postby cooran » Tue May 03, 2011 7:32 am

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Postby rowyourboat » Tue May 03, 2011 5:43 pm

Agreed. But often there isn't anything much more on offer and people are left with mistaken belief that this is all there is ..or am I chasing a straw man of my own creation? :tongue:
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Postby rowyourboat » Tue May 03, 2011 7:44 pm

:jumping:
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Postby rowyourboat » Wed May 04, 2011 7:21 pm

Hi Freewaru,

Yes, and what happened to anicca, dukkha and anatta? These people will never become disenchanted with phenomena, but go on to seek a peaceful existence in samsara- not a bad thing in itself, but not the Buddha's teaching :shrug:

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Re: Sayadaw U Tejaniya 'Right attitude for meditation'

Postby rowyourboat » Mon May 30, 2011 5:31 am

Hi Mike (Freewaru)

Thanks for the clarification- it does help.

After reading that, I wonder how he came up with the previous list.. I think we must loose something when it gets transcribed into text (what happened in the sangayana/councils, incidentally), from the actual speech of it.

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