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Sandhaka Sutta

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Sandhaka Sutta

Postby pulga » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:56 pm

The 52nd paragraph of the Sandhaka Sutta (M76) has a significant variant reading that the translations of the Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi and I.B. Horner differ on:

http://uqconnect.net/slsoc/sutta/m76.pdf

I.B. Horner's translation is more thought provoking than the Ven. Bodhi's, but I can understand the justification for his rendering. I just wonder why the Buddha felt an arahant's reflection worthy of comment.

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Re: Sandhaka Sutta

Postby daverupa » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:30 pm

The Nigantha Nataputta claimed that he had permanent knowledge of his wisdom at all times, iirc, and the Buddha was likely taking pains to explain a difference between that claim and his own experience.

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Re: Sandhaka Sutta

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:38 pm

On second thoughts, I know that BB significantly updated the Nanamoli/Bodhi MN translation with new editions. My (third) edition looks the same as the quote above. Can someone with an earlier edition comment?

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Re: Sandhaka Sutta

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Re: Sandhaka Sutta

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:10 am

Hi Pulga,

As daverupa says, the point here seems to be that an arahant (or the Buddha) only knows something when s/he turns her/his mind to it. This point is made in other suttas. See this discussion
The Buddha's Omniscience.
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=132

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Re: Sandhaka Sutta

Postby pulga » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:17 am

Hi Mike,

You and daverupa may be right; but I still think there may be something conveyed in this sutta that is not readily appreciated, sort of a glimpse into the nature of an arahant's experience. Reflection seems to be the litmus test that confirms whether or not we're liberated from the belief in a self.

Thanks for the link. I'll look it over.

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