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POTUS 2016, part 3 - Dhamma Wheel

POTUS 2016, part 3

A place to bring a contemplative / Dharmic perspective and opinions to current events and politics.

Who would you like to see winning the presidency of the U.S.?

Hillary Clinton - (Dem.)
38
47%
Donald Trump - Mike Pence (Rep.)
21
26%
Gary Johnson - Bill Weld (Libertarian)
8
10%
Jill Stein (Green)
14
17%
 
Total votes: 81

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POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Okay here is the final installment, the final act, POTUS 2016, part 3. I thought Jill Stein already chose her running mate, but see it will not be until next month. Hillary Clinton will probably announce her selection later this week, so might as well go and do the final poll for POTUS. You can change your vote if you want to if the running mate changes anything for you.

As before, non-Americans can choose who they would like to see win.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:02 pm

I really don't want anyone on the list but chose Stein. I absolutely don't want Trump/Pence so I'll make due with anything short of that.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:35 pm

A man is lying in a hospital bed, having been in a coma for the past 20 years. He wakes up and asks "what year is this?" Answer: 2016. He then asks, "who are the candidates for president?"

Answer: An ex-intern's former boyfriend's wife versus Donald Trump. The patient says "good God, is there any other choice?"
Answer: The Libertarian candidate who just announced he hasn't had any marijuana in 3 weeks now.
Patient: "Good night!" and goes back to his coma.

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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby Modus.Ponens » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:21 pm

Hey! It was 8 weeks! :P

As much as I dread right wing economic policies and the corruption orgy with corporations, I very much like to be alive. Therefore I dread even more the record breaking lunatic, Donald Trump; lunatics who, on foreign policy issues, have the intelligence of a toddler; and corrupt lunatics who want to promote a regressive and anti-science agenda and betray every value I hold dear as a liberal. If it has to be the pothead, then so be it.

To quote Obama on the White House correspondents dinner: "The end of the Republic has never looked so great! :) "
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby David N. Snyder » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:34 am

Disregarding what we may or may not want, the reality is that the winner will most likely be Hillary Clinton.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... -forecast/

Clinton will probably win around 300 to 320 electoral votes to about 218 to 238 for Trump with the minor party candidates getting zero (you have to get the most votes in a state to win an individual state's electoral votes).

It will be a landslide to near-landslide for Hillary. The demographics just are no longer there for the traditional Republican values to win any more. The Republicans are going to go the way of the Whigs or if they do survive, they are going to need to morph into something else. The demographics of America have changed.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:54 am

Not that you have to answer, but who's voting for TP?
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby No_Mind » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:44 pm

I know one thing: that I know nothing

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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby No_Mind » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:55 pm

I have over the past year developed a grudging admiration for Trump (though I do not agree with his politics).

I watched the first two seasons of "The Apprentice" and often wondered if he could personally achieve the tough tasks he asked the participants to deliver upon. But he has participated in the toughest season of "The Apprentice" so far -- namely US Presidential elections 2016 -- and has at least ensured second place for himself.

He has many faults but he does not lack guts and chutzpah. Say what you will but give the devil his due.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby chownah » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:20 am

Yes, the devil is very very good at a exploiting peoples fears and weaknesses....good at dividing people and extracting power from one side while vilifying the other side. If the devil wasn't good at doing this then we wouldn't be here talking about him.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

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He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
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Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:12 am

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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby No_Mind » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:53 am

Pretty good speech by Trump. Nothing Hillary can say next week will top his energy level -- and an energetic Hillary begins to start barking as we have seen before :lol:

Despite what late night comedians say .. Hillary has her work cut out for her till November. She underestimates Trump at her own peril.

Between this person



and this person



as leader of your country ....

I don't envy you.
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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby pulga » Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:15 am

The movie version of comes out on Monday. Little wonder why she destroyed the 33,000 emails that the from her.

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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby Tex » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:35 pm

Hillary, I guess.

I don't trust Hillary Clinton to tell me the truth or to admit when she's made a mistake, and that's a shame. But I trust her infinitely more in discussions with allies like Merkel and not-allies like Putin than I'll ever trust Donald Trump. He's nothing more than a salesman and a self-promoter and he shows all the warning signs of becoming a megalomaniac and a fascist, if we're foolish enough enough to give him power.

And as offensive as Trump has been over the past several months, this really is him on his best behavior. It's frightening to ponder what he hasn't said.

Fortunately, I don't think he can win.

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Re: POTUS 2016, part 3

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:19 am

Hillary Clinton picks Senator Tim Kaine to be her VP running mate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

Apparently he is a centrist, lots of political experience; mayor, lt. governor, governor, senator.
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